lead lawyer of one of them. i helped my dad in the other four. still a part of preparing the case? yes, sir. still a part of gathering the evidence and putting it together for trial? in a criminal case, we didn t do much the gathering of the evidence. we took what law enforcement had gathered. putting it together for the criminal trial, correct? yes, sir. presenting evidence in court? yes, sir. giving jury arguments? i did the closing argument in one of them, yes, sir. did you ever have any cases that you prosecuted that went short of a jury trial, either pled out or were dismissed for some reason? you know, i m sure that at some point over between 1998 and 2021 that i took some plea, but as we sit here today i can t specifically remember that, and i don t ever remember working a case up for trial that didn t go to trial, but i m sure at some point in time i was involved in some level of a guilty plea or guilty pleas. you would agree with me that t
plot. that would be scott perry. he pushed for donald trump to fire his acting attorney general and replace him with jeffrey clark. an environmental lawyer who was willing to tip the scales on behalf of donald trump and say that doj had found evidence of election fraud. in court today, attorneys for scott perry argued that prosecutors are blocked from accessing his data because he s a member of congress. washington post reports this, quote, the constitution protects legislators from being questioned outside congress about their work and was written to prevent the president from krubtly trying to influence lawmakers with threats of prosecution, but it is unclear whether it applies to conversations with members of the executive branch and particularly discussions about subverting an election to keep the executive in power. that very issue, whether the constitution s speech or debate clause sprents doj from looking at the work of congress even if
even somewhat tire offend hearing about how much mike pence and donald trump are almost maybe somewhat in trouble. we re talk about special counsel jack smith s subpoena in the criminal coup probe. politico breaking the story. pence using the constitution s speech or debate clause which shields members of congress from law enforcement scrutiny over very specifically when they speak or debate. pence was vice president, so he had that ceremonial role in the tie to break the senate. it s a ceremonial thing because he s not a senator. now in some uncharted legal territory. many legal experts say that this argument could succeed. it really depends. there are questions about how far it might extend. might have a debate for the time he was on the floor, which is