fight and who knows how to talk to other people. and so you have mentioned some names. ketanji brown jackson, i have known her for 20 years. she is stunningly good. she is so smart and so savvy. but i would add someone we have not talked about yet on your show. that is leondra kruger, a california supreme court justice. she actually happened to be my deputy, my principal deputy solicitor general. i named her to that post when she was 35 years old because she is that good. she is perhaps, if not the most extraordinary lawyer i have worked with, pretty darn close. she has done 12 arguments before the supreme court. i think that s more than any other african american women in u.s. history, and constants baker moxley had ten. this is someone who knows the court and someone who should get a serious look from the president and his team. there are others as well, like judge michelle childs that you mentioned as well.