not his cooperation was going to somehow harm the president, but if you look in these hearings what the questions that they wanted from, and the answers that they wanted from paul manafort, was like this meeting that he had with constantine kalimnik a russian that goes to the heart of the investigation, and that part of this is not going away. and they re going to continue, the fbi is going to continue, doing that work, trying to figure out exactly what the russians were doing here, and we have other people, obviously, that are still cooperating, like rick gates, who is probably cooperating with the southern district of new york, and other u.s. attorney s offices. from everything i can tell and from what i have been told, he is a star witness for the department of justice. he is bringing them a lot of evidence. they re not ready to finish with him. they don t want it out there publicly what he s doing. michael flynn is kind of done. with we re just waiting for one case. and if report
also his deputy during the time in ukraine, to transmit polling data to constantine kalimnik, a long-time associate of both of theirs who have been assessed by the fbi to have ties with russia, when they first did that, it was in the spring of 2016, right when trump was wrapping up the republican nomination, right when constantine kalimnik had just been or was preparing to go to new york to meet with associates and he said he hoped to meet with trump as well, and just when manafort was brushing up the campaign to benefit donald trump s presidential campaign, and you could see how potentially and we don t know for sure but potentially having very detailed polling information that showed how donald trump was polling with various segments of the population in various places. having that could potentially
vogel with the new york times. ken, in this filing in the past half hour or so, paul manafort has just said to the judge considering his sentence that since manafort isn t being charged with any crimes related to russia collusion, in the grand scheme of things his crimes aren t that serious, so effectively he shouldn t get that tough a sentence. ken, i know you have been reporting on constantine kalimnik, a long-time coworker of manafort, but it is said that manafort may have sent kalimnik long-time polling data from the trump campaign during the time that trump was up for election. can you tell us what happened at that point? our sources tell us when this first occurred, when manafort actually instructed rick gates, his deputy on the campaign and
assist someone who was trying to launch a social media campaign to help donald trump. ken vogel, reporter for the new york times. thank you for your reporting and helping us understand it tonight. thank you, rachel. we ll be right back. stay with us. stay with us
russia. this meet took place after the nominating convention so we re well into the election. donald trump is the republican nominee. and according to manafort s statements, discussions about ukraine policy had ended at that point. but prosecutors saying that s not the case and that this meeting may have been pivotal not only to discussing between manafort, gates and his associate from europe, constantine kalimnik and also this may have been the meeting where manafort provided to kalimnik internal polling information, giving them a sneak peek insight into what s happening in the campaign. something that you know, that manafort had said did not occur. and according to both the special counsel and now the judge agreeing with him, that was not a truthful statement. maria. paul manafort has gotten himself into trouble and a lot more trouble since if you look at