we saw this tension. clinton versus brown back in the day. liberal/conservative wing. it does resolve itself over time. but it s messy. it s very messy. i think one of the symbols, it s so interesting this was a heritage foundation event last night to defund obama care. one of the cores of the obama care, the individual mandate to have health insurance, originally comes from the heritage foundation. this has happened over and over. i guess i would ask pataki. i speak as a liberal democrat obviously. the republican party has given us the individual mandate. which they said, let s try something market based terrible idea. mitt romney bought into that idea. it was a horrible idea. cap and trade. in the bush and reagan white houses, his idea. now it s a terrible idea. this real-world issue, whole governing issue, i would argue, it is why the republican party
he couldn t win the general election. so far to the right on immigration and all the policies that frankly the american people have rejected time and again that he couldn t win the general election. if mitt romney had been the nominee, he was terrifying democrats, but that s not the guy who showed up. it was a caricature. john brabender, i want to say it correctly. great to have you on the show. you re a good guy. here s the question, prediction. you re the expert on your side. what s more likely, the republican nominee of 2016 to be like ted cruz or rand paul or someone like them, or someone like mitt romney? who is more likely to be the nominee? just for the sake of winning the election, i hope it s not someone just like mitt romney. i think it will be someone coming from a more conservative wing of the party, someone who does play well to social conservatives and also someone who can talk to blue-collar and hard working families which the republican party has not done a good j
coming from a more conservative wing of the party, someone who does play well to social conservatives and also someone who can talk to blue-collar and hard working families which the republican party has not done a good job of doing and mitt romney did not do a good job doing. could be santorum. i m happy to go with that, too. what do you think, mr. steve mcmahon, democrat? do you think i m going to predict at the end of the year, it s one of those times like na na1964, 1980, 2008 on the democrats side, after years of being practical and manipulative, parties show their souls and say this is what we believe. i think the next time that we have a presidential election, which is 2016, the republican party will be the conservative party. i think very conservative party. i think and it will stop playing games. they have been trying to run bob dole, and w. when he spent all that money, and a guy like mccain they didn t believe in. they didn t believe in these
i think it is what he probably believes. he s a more establishment guy, but context matters. look, this is a guy who in 2009 got pushed out of the race for governor by bob mcdonnell because bob mcdonnell was more conservative and better positioned to win the race. he stepped aside with the expectation from everyone in the republican party that in 2013 he d be the guy. well, along comes ken cuccinelli, and the reality is it s a convention there, a very small group of people, activists, conservatives by and large, that pick the nominee. even in a primary i m not sure bill bolling beats ken cuccinelli. so i think some of it is that he s kind of angry at the way in which his political fortunes have played themselves out, but i think part of it, too, is an expression of the kind of establishment, for lack of a better word, within the republican party who looks at some of the folks in a more conservative wing and says these folks are pushing us to a place that is going to get us losing ele
look, this is a guy who in 2009 got pushed out of the race for governor by bob mcdonnell because bob mcdonnell was more conservative and better positioned to win the race. he stepped aside with the expectation from everyone in the republican party that in 2013 he d be the guy. well, along comes ken cuccinelli, and the reality is it s a convention there, a very small group of people, activists, conservatives by and large, that pick the nominee. even in a primary i m not sure bill bolling beats ken cuccinelli. so i think some of it is that he s kind of angry at the way in which his political fortunes have played themselves out, but i think part of it, too, is an expression of the kind of establishment, for lack of a better word, within the republican party who looks at some of the folks in a more conservative wing and says these folks are pushing us to a place that is going to get us losing elections, never getting the hispanic vote, and going to relegate us to minority party status nati