is money. would you ever allow a shutdown in the future? a shutdowns in terms of covid? i let the governors make their decisions, some of them from south carolina, you know and frankly, north dakota a few of them tennessee, they didn t shut down at all. florida did shut down, ron desantis shut down, or ron desanctimonious as he is known. he shut his state down, very violently down. he shut the highways down. donald trump criticizing ron dissents for his response to the covid-19 pandemic at a town hall last night at iowa, it aired on fox news. that happened not too far where desantis was on with former u.n. ambassador nikki haley at a debate that trump chose not to attend. republican presidential governor ron desantis joins us now from altoona iowa. what happened yesterday, as you are well aware. i m looking at this fat check for march 1st 2020, the headline is. trump praises florida governor despite criticism of coronavirus response. he called you a great governor. i ac
the polls to save democracy again. as they did in 2020. i look at states of iowa, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, that barack obama won. it is not just about black voters. the importance of the obamas getting out and talking to all voters in swing states, it seems to me especially if you look at their track record, it would be extraordinarily helpful. it s interesting reading that piece. one of the reasons that i will change, we have college educated i winds leaving the state. this is the big new faultline in america, college educated americans vote democratic, and conservatives without a college degrees stay behind in the state. i don t even know if there s much that the obamas could do today, it s a different state from what it was.
now from altoona iowa. what happened yesterday, as you are well aware. i m looking at this fat check for march 1st 2020, the headline is. trump praises florida governor despite criticism of coronavirus response. he called you a great governor. i actually know a little bit about florida, from my memory donald trump was actually attacking you, back in 2024 not shutting down the state down more? is that correct? look joe, this is the number one crisis he faced as president. he chose to defer to anthony fauci. they were running commercials in october of 2020 for his reelection, bragging that he followed everything fauci said. when fauci, donald trump s last day in office he gave fauci commendation. he forcibly shut down the
wired. you guys told, me no debates, and i lost primary? i m not listening to you. i am going to debater in south carolina. you can totally see trump doing, that peter. you know well, you covered trump in the white house. that is a plausible knee-jerk reaction from him in a moment of anger which he would commit to a debate. i think that is totally possible. they will try to talk him out of it, i m sure, but i think he maybe tended to do it if he doesn t fact lose new hampshire to her. i think that this is more of a game now of demography, and i think new hampshire could be a false one for her because it is hard to see where beyond that she could go. you guys know well the history of south carolina. it is a much more of a conservative orange state, in the new hampshire electorate does not dictate what the folks in south carolina do. and bush mccain 2000, we ve all seen that movie before. and his mouth is not working as effectively as it was a few minutes ago. teeth freezing up. doctor
that will be the real tell i think in new hampshire if this is a head to head race there. okay, jim art. let s go back to new hampshire, because i think we all agree nikki haley could win new hampshire, but the electorate, they re the republican electorate is different than most of the next primary. she is losing in a home state of south carolina and then a lot of the other states that will happen around them. so does haley have what is their pathway posed to hampshire even if she wins? not right. no, this is the problem with nikki haley challenging trump is that the party has dramatically changed. trump has realigned the republican party. it s much more of a working class party. and if you look at the cross tabs of any poll, you do not have to be a political scientist or polter to see the glaring, the glaring growing trend which is that trump dominates all comers with lower income, non-college graduates, and basically haleysburg is the pre-trump kind of push era gop. now in new