in many sfepheres, immigrati, he has taken, seized the grabbed the authority to change the law or delay the law. that is unconstitutional. all right. belts betsey mccoy beating obamacare 2014. thank you for joining us. now time for the results of tonight s instapoll has the edward snowden done this country a service or a criminal? my viewers interestingly enough were divided. rick writes he is a traitor. charge him. give him a fair trial. throw his ass in jail. the real heroes wear dog tags. while joanne has a different take. he did a great service. no one else was informing us we were living in 1984 now. but, michael tweets, snowden is a patriot. if he is willing to accept the consequenc consequences. and that s it for us tonight. thank you for joining us. remember to friend me on facebook, follow me on twitter,
in many sfepheres, immigrati, he has taken, seized the grabbed the authority to change the law or delay the law. that is unconstitutional. all right. belts betsey mccoy beating obamacare 2014. thank you for joining us. now time for the results of tonight s instapoll has the edward snowden done this country a service or a criminal? my viewers interestingly enough were divided. rick writes he is a traitor. charge him. give him a fair trial. throw his ass in jail. the real heroes wear dog tags. while joanne has a different take. he did a great service. no one else was informing us we were living in 1984 now. but, michael tweets, snowden is a patriot. if he is willing to accept the consequenc consequences. and that s it for us tonight. thank you for joining us. remember to friend me on facebook, follow me on twitter,
well, i think part of it is his personality, which is very beguiling. it s not as if previous popes didn t want a missionary or merciful church. the difference is francis has indicated a willingness to put his money where his mouth is, to embrace real change. he did take a couple things off the table in this document. he said no to women priests and he said church teaching on abortion isn t going to change, but beyond that, he said he s open to what he called a conversion of the papacy, a kind of decentralization of the church. he wants to empower women in laity and it could have huge consequenc consequences. pro-choice politicians have been threatened from being turned away from the communion line. people say this isn t just rhetoric, it s big. you also have pugh research
unwillingness to stand who sends what to whom, where he was when he sent it. if you think about the journalists who have gone to jail in this country because they were unwilling to give up the name of their sources. for themvy great respect, because what they do is they recognize the value, for example, of the freedom of the press stated in the constitution. they break a law, a statute, but then they stand for the consequenc consequences. that s not what s happening here. we must recognize that this individual in these circumstances can now be pressured by nations that do in fact potentially cause harm to us as a nation and he in this attempt to save his own skin, it is how we know who conscientious objectors are, because they are always willing to stand for the consequences. his unwillingness to do it i m sorry, unfortunately we are out of time. i want to point out as we go to break, the comparison to nixon is ill-informed because in this case the first thing mr. snowden lea
men and women who led the civil rights movement. rosa parks, martin luther king, jr., they are true heros. i m not ready to put edward snowden in that category. for one thing, i don t remember martin luther king, jr. or rosa parks running off and hiding in china. the people that led the civil rights movement were willing to break the law and suffer the consequenc consequences. that s different than putting the nation s security at risk and running away. running to china, that s a good point, mike barncle. a really good point. about the last place to go. right. concerned about liberty and exposure. unless you re in with china on something. working with china, yeah. that s right. you think about really what always strikes me the relevant parallel here is to go back to the pentagon papers and think about ellsberg who stayed and did something he thought was an act of conscience and that s a similar kind of thing. the vietnam war was not illegal, put the pentagon papers ou