joe, to my knowledge, knows everybody in that neighborhood. it sounded like a crazy story and larry well knew it. if i were a guy out there watching dateline, i wouldn t believe this. i would be the first person to say, oh, this guy is full of baloney. it s like watching a tv show. it is like watching a tv show. and you re telling us to go search for the one-armed man. yes. that s a good analogy, yes. and so, we went to try to check out larry s story. was he telling the truth this time? or was it a lie just like the ones he told his family? we combed the area around his old photo studio, an industrial area near the freeway full of warehouses and alleys in search of an injun joe who might lead us to jerry. we found this old rv and inside? joe, indian joe.
the suspect. whoa. it s you. but he claimed he was framed and a man named indian joe could prove it. even he admitted his story sounded crazy. if i was a guy out there watching dateline, i wouldn t believe this. this is like watching a tv show. you re telling us to go search for the one-armed man. yes. well, we found indian joe. that s all true? oh, yeah, that s all true. what else would we find? there s a maniac out there. hello and welcome to hello and welcome to dateline. family and faith were everything to connie hoagland. a devoted mother of 3 and wife of a church leader. so, when a car bomb shattered life as she knew it, investigators were baffled. the motive remained a mystery until a
he said he had a friend out in pennsylvania named bob and he would go out there and do work for him. we had no reason not to trust him and believe him. but here s what connie and the kids didn t know. larry was financing his secret life with extra mortgages on their san diego home. i thought we were doing fine. i thought it was going to be a good time in our life. but then suddenly there was no money. suddenly it s like what? bankruptcy? you had to declare bankruptcy? i didn t want to declare bankruptcy but larry said, no, we need to do this. so i just went ahead with it. you went along? yep. yeah. i trusted him. i thought he maybe knew better than i knew. and detectives learned, while larry was deceiving connie and bleeding his own family dry, he was also playing lee ann, telling her the timing wasn t right for them to get married, because he couldn t afford to go through with his divorce. as proof, larry even
you reach me? yes. and then what? gave you another one because he had a second phone? yes. he said here s my wife s phone number. i said, okay, fine, so i grabbed the piece of paper and wrote it down. all of it to frame you for murder to what possible end? for what conceivable reason? how does that benefit him? it s obvious we ve got a maniacal person on our hands here. tell me what you know about jerry. i know very little about jerry. i know what he looks like. what does he look like? about six feet tall, dark hair, wavy like yours, no salt and pepper. i would guess that he s late 20s, early 30s. always needed a shave. larry said there was one transient who could back up his story. and his name is? that s joe, indian joe. and he s been out there and he s been there for some time. if we find joe, he ll be able to lead us to jerry? i certainly hope so, because
involved. the box was removed and destroyed. inside investigators were hoping to find some evidence that could lead them to the bomber. instead they found party favors that jonathan had forgotten he d ordered for a high school dance. something that he was in charge of getting and he didn t remember it. but it shows the state of mind at the time. it was pretty rough, school was closed down, bomb squad coming out, everything. while this particular event turned out to be a bust in terms of finding any workable evidence, luke and beals believed the bomber had to be somebody who knew the hoaglands. knew where they worked, where they lived, knew their routines and had access to their cars. the only problem was that connie, a devout christian and mother of three, had no known enemies. but luke and beals had one witness who might be able to shed some light on that part of their investigation. a witness they had yet to question. connie hoagland.