is state of the union. there was a boxing match here in washington last night, but the real punches were thrown in des moines. let s be candid. the only reason you didn t become a career politician is you lost to tedty kennedy in 1994. the last thing he needs to have is not just a person who is an historian but also someone who is running for president of the united states stand up and say things that create extraordinary timult in his neighborhood. if you want a difference, michele bachmann is the difference. if freddie mac is bailed out by a bailout, so i tink, newt, you got some of our taxpayer money. if you will cheat on your wife, if you will cheat on your spouse, then why wouldn t you cheat on your business partner or why wouldn t you cheat on anybody for that matter. back in 1984, newt, i was running for the united states senate andy not support an individual mandate and i was a conservative. you strayed on that issue as you have on others. the record i
claus bags to go home with. we have to strip all the earmarks out. it s an outrage. there s 6,600 earmarks in there. it s a republican and democratic problem. i think we should do a short-term resolution and get all of that garbage out thereof and deal with real spending reform come january. you re new the new juice. why don t you make these republicans do what you guys sell, matt. that s exactly what we ve done with the house republicans you have not done that, matt. all these fat cat republicans, every one of them is pushing pork so they can get re-elected. they re doing it and laughing at you guys. senator mcconnell is leading the charge against this omnibus pork bill. and getting his pork while he s doing it. not if we kill the bill. okay, okay, thank you. going around the corner on me. thank you very much for joining me. freedom works, great organization for you guys. bob walker, always great to have you on.
we re back. and some tea partiers out there are mad about this trillion-dollar budget bill with some pork in. some others are mad about the tax cut bill which also adds $900 billion to the deficit and some others are mad that the republican leaders aren t rewarding some of their heroes, like michele bachmann with plum assignments. is there a brewing battle on the right between the tea party people and the establishment republican party? matt kibee is the president of freedom works and bob walker. is a former congressman from pennsylvania. gentlemen, thank you. let the fight begin, perhaps. what do you make of this let s start with the tax cut proposal. matt, we want you on this show all of the time. do they like this big tax cut for everybody, bush tax cuts all of the way, extending the jobless benefits and the whole works.
i think she has the background necessary to be on ways and means. it shows leadership doesn t necessarily support her. congressman walker, does fame on the outside help you get a big job on the inside? she s got a lot of fame and notoriety. i love sparring with her. but that doesn t seem to be helping her with the inside guys. it s more than simply being a spokesman on the outside that works inside the process, that determines what you do on committees. and the steering committee has to weigh a number of things. i think in picking the people that they did, they did a pretty good job. they picked people who are going to stand up for lower taxes and more dynamic economy and economic growth. that s what we have to have on the economic committee. is she a show horse, not a workhorse? no i thought you were saying that. there were workhorses you could
all of the time. do they like this big tax cut for everybody, bush tax cuts all of the way, extending the jobless benefits and the whole works. i tell you it s kinds of a mixed deal and there are some tea partiers that have anxiety, particularly about some of the junk in the bill. the extension of unemployment benefits. the ethanol subsidies, they re pretty it s bad stuff. but we view it as dodging the executioner s bullet, getting past this massive automatic tax increase that will hit all americans in january. we have to get to rational tax policy, but for this congress, nancy pelosi, harry reid, and president barack obama to extend the bush tax cuts, i think we should consider that a tactical victory. bob walker, do you think unemployment benefits are junk for the people who get them? you just heard it, your colleague there on the right just said, it s junk. well, i don t think they re junk but i think that they should be paid for and i think that s one of the things that rep