point that was going on, that he went out and intentionally spread falsehoods that he knew to be untrue, speaks to the nature of his intent, in terms of trying to obstruct what was going on, to try to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power and ultimately, potentially try to overflow overthrow the government. it speaks to the matter of intent. the question is, what charge will merrick garland pursue? then, the nature of the intent becomes increasingly relevant. all right. the nature of the intent. make it plain for us, charles. look, can you weigh in on this other point here? i am quite disturbed by what we have learned about the failure to act on the part of multiple intelligence agencies, including the secret service. this was a failure to act, not a failure of intelligence. congressman stephanie murphy had something to say about this. as you know, we are still going to tens of thousands of documents that the secret
coup. we know they were deeply involved in tracking, and planning, for both trump and pence during, before, and after the insurrection. but despite this, it appears the january six committee knows surprisingly little about the secret services internal deliberations from that time. when the agents were doing and saying. last month, for example, committee member congressman stephanie murphy from florida, said that tony ornato is a key figure because he served as both a deputy white house chief of operations and ahead of trump secret service detail, wood and was not forthcoming to his testimony with the committee. especially compared to mark meadows aide, cassidy hutchinson. mr. ornado did not have as clear of memories from this period of time, as i would say miss hutchinson did, if that s a fair assessment. but we re always happy to have those who have recalled planes to come back and talk to us. i mean, you can read between
well, the media was giddy over the prospect that one of producen was going to a big show and wow, the public the audience. butli half the production lived up to the hype. well, not from what we thought . first we learned that basically nothing substantial that we didn t know. eighteen monthsta ago. so where was all that master documentary story telling thatla nicolle wallace was talking about it? let s begin with a star panelist, liz cheney, who seems to suddenly remember that she is actually in the middle of a tough primary race in wyoming. look at that log cabin backdrop. it s so authentic. look at it. then there was the new special guest panelist, congressman stephanie murphy. she should join cupie in the reading room and never leave. she couldn t even get the pronunciation of the key witness right. campaign senior adviser jason miller told us that mr.r. cipollini thought john eastman s theories were nutty . mr. cipollini tried to . rticipate in this meetingo
people believe people not to testify if they believe the truth will be damaging to them. this is not a court of law. this is congress doing a hearing and trying to convince the american brick that donald trump is dangerous and that he tried to overturn an election and he is anti-democracy. ben, you and i watched the entire hearing alongside each other. and there was one thing that stood out to me a lot of things but one thing in particular yesterday and that s the stop the steal rally. who knew what when? donald trump in drafts was talking about sending his folks to march to the capitol. that was subsequently taken out of drafts. but yet at the same time, the organizer of the stop the steal rally, and mike lindell, the my pillow guy, both knew that donald trump would say it, even though it was not in the final text. i asked congressman stephanie murphy, who was one of the questioners yesterday in the january 6th panel doing this questioning how they still knew that. here s what she
mister president, one quick follow-up. one of the things that they re asking for a public health emergency, is that something you re considering? that s something i ve asked the folks, the medical people in the administration to look at. whether that is i have the authority to do that, what impact that would have. in just a moment we re going to get the latest from in robot speech. let s go to today s other headlines. some major developments in the january six investigation. two here in set for this week. new intel this morning into what former white house counselor pat cipollone said in his more than seven-hour testimony. a member of the panel, congressman stephanie murphy, told msnbc choctaw that cipollone provided a lot of relevant information. some of this we may here on tuesday. are we going to see much of mr. cipollone s testimony on tuesday? or in the first hearing this week? we are always receiving new information from a lot of different sources.