all right, kasie hunt, thank you very much. we ll talk to you soon. house democratic caucus chairman joe crowley says the gop tax plan is a sham. mark meadows says it will give americans their money back. who is right? we ll talk to both men coming up on morning joe. take out the? (sigh) ( ) dad: molly! trash! ( ) whoo! ( ) mom: hey, molly? it s time to go! (bell ringing) class, let s turn to page 136, recessive traits skip generations. who would like to read?
and it certainly didn t, hasn t worked effectively for the past 15 or 20 years, in part, catty kay, because of divisions, few look at what s happening in the united states and great britain. you look at what s happening in germany, you have autocrats across the globe, it s almost like we re going back to cold war debates about what works and what doesn t work. you look at how tied up congress is and how partisan congress is and they can t even have a debate, an open debate on the floor and have regular order. you look at teresa may failing with brexit votes and having a government together but fought really having a government together t. same thing with angela merkel in germany. you can begin to make an argue if you are vladimir putin than western style democracies just don t work anymore. yeah, if you take this tax bill as an exact exam of that, joe, perhaps one of the most interesting things is the fact
i m not sure that s where the base of the party is, the base of the democratic party wants us to fight for them. they want people to stand lock step with them. not give an inch in this political environment. it may not be the right thing, maybe what we want is more compromise, that s not where the party is at the moment. i don t know if lead, kab on this one, will they be seen as being democrats who historically attended, a rollover in the face of republican toughness and unity, that s not where the party is. they won t, joe is exactly right no. matter what happens the republicans will get blamed, if the government does something, they will be blamed. we will have those republicans the chairman of the house freedom caucus, mark meadow, also coming up the white house giving president trump credit for recent stockmarket gains, saying a businessman is better than a liberal politician in the white house. our own steve ratner sent in a fact check on that, as we go to break, a bit of hol
shipped overseas anymore. but we ve seen the story of jobs coming back into the united states as wages have risen in china and even to some extent in mexico. onshoring happening in america. so that seemed to be a bit of a red herring to me. jeff was nodding there. nodding with katty or the congressman is this. nodding with katty, my new show. to say american workers can stop worrying about their jobs leaving for china. there s no automatic trigger here that guarantees that. that s what i was trying to get at. i was a little surprised that the, to tell you the truth. joe? willie, the fact is that right now, tax lawyers across k street and across america are pouring through this document. they don t even know exactly what s in the bill. they don t know how it s going to impact them.
years? obviously, joe, you re spot on. we agree on two things. one is the debt and certainly the deficit is something we have to tackle. the other is our favorite christmas movie it s a wonderful life. so two things we can agree on this morning. how do we tackle that, getting to your question? we have to make sure that we slow down the growth of government. really, government has grown been growing twice as fast as paychecks back home on main street. so what i propose is that we slow down the growth. not cut government. just slow down the growth. you talk about government, congressman, as you know, when you talk about government, if you re just talking about discretionary spending that s 10%, 11% of the government that. won t do it. you re right. that won t save us. you ve got to look at defense, entitlements. you ve got to look at reforming all of those. so, are you willing to go there?