re-election, the policy may have been misguided. but not necessarily enough to impeach the president of the united states. what is your response? well, gosh, i m whoithholdin judgment on impeachment until we re completed with our assignment now and the inquiry stage. and it goes to the judiciary committee. there is a lot of evidence that is stacked up over the last couple of weeks that support any number of offenses from abuse of power to coercion to bribery to obstruction and so i rerh respectfully disagree with congressman hurd. at the end of the day, this is what it is about, wolf, are we going to allow a president to use the immense power of the office to basically pressure another power to investigate his or her political rivals here?
putin, to the actual invasion by russia, and then they saw the competing interests of this president who actually as fiona hill said so movingly and so clearly that sondland was sent on a political errand, a private political errand while she was trying to work on diplomacy and peace and national security and global security. and those two agendas came into conflict. toward the end of today s hours and hours of testimony we heard from will hurd of texas, not seeking re-election, former cia clandestine officer, listen to what he said, his bottom line conclusion. impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear, and unambiguous and it is not something to be rushed or taken lightly. i ve not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion. i also reject the notion that holding this view means
embassy in ukraine who overheard that phone conversation between the president and the u.s. ambassador to the eu gordon sondland? i thought he was convincing. he gave facts that were consistent with his deposition testimony, and his opening statements, in both. and i think that he was also somebody who tried to stay in his lane, so to speak, and, you know, testified as to what he knew, what he saw, what he heard. and i think he really did hear the president speak on that phone, talked about how the phone call was the president was very loud on the phone, and then gordon sondland, he gave testimony yesterday which was not contradictory for the vast majority of what was described today in that phone call. fiona hill described what she described as this shadow policy in ukraine as a domestic political errand. but your republican colleague will hurd of texas, not seeking
story. but you have folks like secretary state mike pompeo who has political ambitions here, he s not going to separate himself with president trump right now and mick mulvaney. did anything really change today, were any minds changed on the democratic side, or the republican side? no. i don t think so. not today. because i think they re set in stone. we saw it on the committee. some of us were surprised to hear will hurd say that use the it was inappropriate, but perhaps not impeachable defense, i think where he ll end up. i want to talk one more thing about fiona hill. she shredded more artifices today, when someone said and everyone thought it strained credulity yesterday, nobody really knew that burisma equaled biden and she was asked about it and she said, yeah, that she said it was not credible that he
yeah, good morning, jim and, go nats. i think you might see a couple of folks on either side leak on the republican side, of course, congressman omash, no longer a republican, may vote with democrats, maybe a congressman hurd from texas who is going to retire from his house seat at the end of this term. on the democratic sides some moderates who don t want to walk the plank yet on this vote. but i don t think that s really central to speaker pelosi s plans right now as long as she gets the votes across. and, of course, you don t get to be speaker if you don t know how to whip a vote like this and i m sure she ll get the votes. it s going to be seen as you and abby were discuss, as a partisan vote, but democrats are going to emphasize the fact this isn t a vote to impeach the president. this is a vote to set the next phase of an impeachment inquiry and set the rules. although get folks on the record setting that next phase in effect a vote in support. to ratify the process. abby