and joining me now is congressman ruben of arizona and don callaway, founder of the national voter protection action found and glenn, former federal prosecutor and msnbc columnist. i ll start with you congressman giago. this is a text read during the proceedings to hold mark meadows in contempt and this was the text on january 6th, 2021 vice president mike pence as president of the senate should call out all electoral votes he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all in accordance with guidance from alexander hamilton basically saying the vice president should throw out the result of the election. he forwarded that text, he forwarded it to mark meadows. you said that means he s a traitor to the constitution. please explain. look, it was a very much