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away with charitable deductions which could be a part of that. part of it could be to do away with mortgage interest deduction. taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income. all of that could have an enormous impact on the economy and the middle class of america. so i think it is time for the president to do what we need to do, which is real in spending, get a control and a handle on spending and try to balance the amount of money takes in with what is going out. martha: taking on social security and medicare as alan simpson suggested? that is an important thing for us to put on the table. as you mentioned most of the experts have looked at it and said we can t sustain this mandatory spending we have over the next decade. it will bankrupt the country. martha: congressman forbes, thank you very much. good luck, guys. thank you, martha. day. bill: on that same note, leon panetta apparently sent out a letter to all the employees at the pentagon and the department of defense,

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