that you are leaning on process. that you see the things congressman deming s just talked about in terms of the phone call and the things that simply have raised a lot of questions, and that you continually go back to the fact that the whole process is unfair, and therefore you can t possibly impeach the president. what do you say to that? well, that s incorrect, martha. we are leaning on substance and focusing on the facts. as we saw earlier this week, the democrats care costar witnesses had no direct knowledge, giving instances of hearsay. sometimes third, fourth, and fifth hand hearsay. i think this is a very serious process, and i think the american public was watching, riveted, waiting for a silver bullet, and they have that. i do not believe the president had committed impeachable offensoffenses, and the democrae not shown that the president committed impeachable offenses. we are leaning on substance on the facts. martha: the other day, you are praised by some for your perfor