a little earlier than usual. i hope you re warm and comfortable. settle in, we ll be here for a while. and we have something to talk about, because we finally have, finally have donald trump s tax returns. today, house democrats released thousands of pages of the ex-president s tax records, covering six years from 2015 to 2020. of course, that s the period when trump was campaigning for the president and subsequently the president of the united states, four years in the white house. the release of this information is the culmination of a years long quest undertaken by a whole bunch of folks, civil society lawyers, reporter, democratic members of congress alike. you ll remember when donald trump came down the golden escalator to announce his presidenty. in have been a ton of questions about his finances and conflicts of interest as he entered the white house and existed within it. he claimed over and over again that the irs was auditing him. i want to release my tax returns
Including at the top of the hour. You mentioned his meeting with the leader of venezuela, this is one of several one on ones that the president has today. Msnbc happens to be able to be in the room, interacting with the president. One of our teams producers is there. Ill be in the room for the meeting with the president and the leader of ukraine in just a bit. It is now 10 00 and were going to get to breaking news. As this moment is Trump Administration is releasing what the president describes as the transcript of that phone call that launched the democrats impeachment investigation. What we now know, it was a 30minute call with the president of ukraine two months ago. Weve got a team of reporters covering the story and lets get to julia at the Justice Department. What are we learning so far . We went over the transcript of the call and we also went over why the Justice Department is not going to release the whistleblower complaint. What stood out to me about the transcript is that th
after death, he manages to get that. and it s more money than a lot of the other punitive operating businesses they are making. congressman dan kildy, who sits on the ways and means committee, got it done, 12 hours before the deadline. thank you, congressman. thank you, chris. i would love to have you back to flint some time. thank you very much. you bet. all right. suzanne craig is the investigative reporter for the new york times who was part of that remarkable bit of reporting. she co-authored an article recently and joins me now. obviously, it s only been a few hours and these are thousands of pages. but there s no one who is a better expert on this area than you are. what is striking you as you go through these? what are your top lines for what we re learning?
so the irs was in violation of law not auditing him, even when trump said he was being audited. as they had audited previous presidents, until neal started sniffing around. so clearly something went wrong there. the data shows that donald trump paid almost nothing in taxes during his first year in office, and zero dollars in his last year 2020 because he reported such high losses. now, of course, the big question remains, how much is reality, how much is accounting fiction? congressman dan kildy joins me now. first, my question is, did you think this day would actually come? well, it was a long time coming. first of all, thanks for having me back on the show. we started soon after democrats took control of the house to begin to look at the big questions that had gone unanswered. this was a big one. it was in april of that year that chairman neal sent the
this is the president engaging a foreign power to advance his own interests, conspiring with a foreign power to try to do political damage to an opponent and using the attorney general of the united states in order to achieve that goal. that s an impeachable offense and we ought to pursue that. congressman dan kildy from michigan. i appreciate you being with us. do you have any insight into what nancy pelosi told you all at the caucus meeting this morning? is she also as committed as you are to this? i don t think there s much doubt. she, herself has acknowledged that this recent set of events has taken the conversation to a different level. i appreciate i. thank you. it is now 10:31, which means for about 31 minutes we had had our hands on what the white house has released, a summery of the phone conversation 30 minutes long between president trump and the president of ukraine back on july 25th. a phone call that has apparently trig ld the whistle-blower