are dependent on them for political donations. it makes no sense. i m reminded of something that happened in my freshman term in congress. we passed a law that gave the secretary of the v.a. the ability to fire people because we had a series of scandals at the v.a. at the time i thought, wait, he doesn t already have that authority? [laughter] he doesn t have the authority to fire people? but it s true. and even with that authority, it s so hard to fire people because the union sues you. and how would that work in the private sector? you have to be able to fire employees that aren t performing, right? if otherwise your government job becomes a lifetime contract sean: hey, mike, if you want to change government through elections, you ve got to be able to change the inner workings of the are elections. mike gallagher, always smart. thanks for joining me. thank you. sean: coming up, americans continue to dig deeper into their bank accounts to pay more for essential items. utah republi
essential items from gasoline to milk and eggs and electricity. on thursday the new york times reported that a growing number of americans are taking out loans just to buy groceries. here now on the economic dilemma many people are facing on a daily basis is utah republican congressman burgess owens who sits on the education and labor committees. congressman, good to see you. set me straight on this. so you see the fed, they re raising rates to deal with inflation, and at the very same time you have house and senate democrats are with biden spending way more money, pouring the fuel on inflation. this is psychotic. fed s working to address it, dems are working to make it worse. thank you, sean. first of all, great interview with mike. let me tell you i ve learned in the last year and a half, and this is something i think americans need to kind of embrace. what you re seeing is not a lack of common sense, it s no purpose. we have to understand we have a
add very says, but adversaries, but as neighbors. we can join forces. stop shouting and lower the temperature. without unity there is no peace. only bitterness and fury. there s no question that the republican party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by donald trump and the maga republicans. and that is a threat to this country. sean: coming up, utah republican congressman burgess owens. plus, the continuing fallout over the fbi sen unprecedented raid on former president trump s raid in florida. the 45th president speaking last night. it was not just my home that was raided last month, it was the hopes and dreams of every citizen who i ve been fighting for since the moment i came down the golden escalator [cheers and applause]
assault. we do ourselves no favor to pretend otherwise. too much of what s happening in if our country today is not normal. donald trump and the maga republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. maga republicans have made their choice. they have embraced anger, they thrive on chaos. they live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies. sean: that s president biden delivering a prime time address on thursday which focused on maga republicans, not the number of critical issues pacing the country. and we re back with u.s. republican utah republican congressman burgess owens. congressman, you look at that speech, and it was rageful, he was trying to instill fear in the american people. this red backdrop. what was your takeaway on the speech? very dark. and let me help you understand, americans out there, they are afraid of the brand make america