i m katie phang. we start today s show with more new evidence from the january 6th committee. they ve released more transcripts today, including interviews with critical players like donald trump s son don junior and top adviser stephen miller. miller admitted being told of a march to the capitol, telling the committee, quote, i think there might be, like, a plan for there to be a, you know, a peaceful walk to the capitol. the transcripts also revealing don junior was perturbed by the capitol insurrection. the committee questioning him about a text he wrote to meadows advise them to consemithis s stuff, don junior saying he was referring to the violence that s going on. even noting the hypocrisy of it all, saying, i spent the last 18 months call out violence and looting. but the committee alleges trump knew about the violence and didn t want to stop it. remember this critical testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson. i overheard the president say somethin
congressional committee don t have to make that testimony better. and i think for example one obvious avenue here is mark meadows. he seems to be at the center of everything. even don junior is going through him to talk to his own dad some putting the pressure on meadows, offering him immunity for his testimony, he seems to very much be the focus or a focus of the january 6th investigation from a criminal perspective. you know, joyce, as we consume these transcripts, as we read them, as we kind of elatedly see some really interesting things that are sticking out to us, is there a concern, though, from the repeated indication of, i do not recall, i do not remember, i don t know is there a concern if you re don junior, for example, that you re backing yourself into a corner from which it s going to be difficult to climb out later when you re trying to fix the testimony, trying to make it better for your own legal defense?
the government during the attack and since then he s gotten death threats and people have shown up at his home. joining me now, federal prosecutors joyce and renato. joyce, i think like to start with you from a legal standpoint. what do you think is the most damning evidence from today s transcript drop? you know, this is one of those moments where you could sling a cat around the room, right, and you would just keep hitting things. there s a lot going on in this release of transcripts. i think one of the very telling details comes in donald trump jr. s testimony, where he s asked about switching to use of a program or an app that automatically deletes his communications on his phone, and whether or not that was tied up to the committee s formation. and he denies that. the timing is very
so trump might be a weak link here. joyce, to renato s point, stephen miller telling the committee that to this day he still thinks trump won the election. i have to ask you, joyce, what is the import of that testimony that miller s just nuts or dumb or both? or does that help him in some legal way by maintaining that he thinks that trump still won that 2020 election? so, look, it s clearly a legal strategy, because anyone with any level of ability to take in information and process it is aware that the evidence is overwhelming, that there was no fraud that impacted the 2020 election. that one s just out the window. but what this persistent, you know, just clinging to the notion of fraud does, i think, in the minds of some of these folks, is that it s an effort to negate essential elements that the government would have to prove to prosecute them
i m katie phang. we start today s show with more new evidence from the january 6th committee. they ve released more transcripts today, including interviews with critical players like donald trump s son don junior and top adviser stephen miller. miller admitted being told of a march to the capitol, telling the committee, quote, i think there might be, like, a plan for there to be a, you know, a peaceful walk to the capitol. the transcripts also revealing don junior was perturbed by the capitol insurrection. the committee questioning him about a text he wrote to meadows advise them to consemithis s stuff, don junior saying he was referring to the violence that s going on. even noting the hypocrisy of it all, saying, i spent the last 18 months call out violence and looting. but the committee alleges trump knew about the violence and didn t want to stop it. remember this critical testimony