my family, they are mourning the loss of her and her husband. and it s something that it makes me realize, this is what it means to be american, to experience something like this. it seems that this is what an american experience is like, to suffer alongside people and mass shootings and make yourself a person who can relate to the list of victims. it s very, very sad. very, very difficult. we ll be back, but i want to send it back to you. jose, thank you. and our thanks to the torez and saucedo families, as well. in terms of the ways that we re looking about this as a country, obviously, the fact that this is the worst-ever terrorist attack on the latino community in the united states is a huge portion of what we have to contend with here as a country. obviously, the gun reform issues and the gun policy issues are something that we are instantly both confounded by and confronting. but there is also, as jose s guest there was just saying, there is this issue of white
terrorist attack on the latino community in the united states is a huge portion of what we have to contend with here as a country. obviously, the gun reform issues and the gun policy issues are something that we are instantly both confounded by and confronting. but there is also, as jose s guest there was just saying, there is this issue of white nationalism, of there being a domestic terrorism movement here, about it dovetailing in some ways with the ragged edge of right-wing american politics and right-wing media right now in a way that is, that is a different kind of challenge. i ll tell you that in terms of the gun reform piece of this, the as we are routinely confounded by the fact that we don t make changes, that when there are gun massacres, that as much as anybody expresses a need for there to be some sort of change, for some reason, things always get stuck. the nra always leads the charge,
a white man coming into this community and inciting this violence against a community that we are a peaceful, loving community. my father, he lost his cousin, my family, they are mourning the loss of her and her husband. and it s something that it makes me realize, this is what it means to be american, to experience something like this. it seems that this is what an american experience is like, to suffer alongside people and mass shootings and make yourself a person who can relate to the list of victims. it s very, very sad. very, very difficult. we ll be back, but i want to send it back to you. jose, thank you. and our thanks to the torez and saucedo families, as well. in terms of the ways that we re looking about this as a country, obviously, the fact that this is the worst-ever terrorist attack on the latino community in the united states is a huge portion of what we have to contend with here as a country. obviously, the gun reform issues and the gun policy issues are somethin
and i want is now just become a personality tit for tat. and you re right. that s donald trump s comfort zone. the problem is nancy pelosi has generally had the upper hand because the president does personally like her, and he has been sort of confounded on how to deal with her. and i think when you get into the just throwing mud portion of our program, he s generally going to win that. so i just i m not sure where we go from here. there is also 800,000 people that s what i mean. we ve gotten away from the high ground about what is actually the impact of this shutdown and now it just looks like a tit for tat. admiral kirby, even if there was a way for senator pelosi to get on a flight to afghanistan, i guess for a security point the president has blown her cover. she is second in line to the presidency. she would have to have protective detail to say the least in afghanistan, a very large one, nothing to say of the military presence. so look, there is two things. yes, she c
right before they were about to leave. but it is all personal with this president. it s mostly personal. or at least it s about, look, this the last 48 hours has taken this away from being about how do we get the government reopened and how do we get to a deal, either from the president s perspective on a wall and from the democrats perspective on doing something that they would reopening the government or then getting something in exchange for that. some kind of border security money. and i want is now just become a personality tit for tat. and you re right. that s donald trump s comfort zone. the problem is nancy pelosi has generally had the upper hand because the president does personally like her, and he has been sort of confounded on how to deal with her. and i think when you get into the just throwing mud portion of our program, he s generally going to win that. so i just i m not sure where we go from here. there is also 800,000 people that s what i mean. we ve g