this realization, the signs have been evident for some time. as someone who now supports keeping it open, who goes through your mind when you hear pardiss describe the conditions there. i want to be clear about my position. i don t think guantanamo ought to stay open for the long term. what i was responding to is my fear that the bumper sticker of close guantanamo was missing some of the broader underlying issues, which is the questions about when does this conflict end. and until we answer that question, this is this there s two three categories of detainees at guantanamo. there s the 86 who have been either cleared for transfer or conditional transfer who essentially languish there due to a combination of congressional restrictions and an administration who s kind of given up on transferring some of these detainees out. and also home country refusal to take them. absolutely, absolutely. and then there s this other category of 46 detainees who this administration, just like
i don t think guantanamo ought to stay open for the long term. what i was responding to is my fear that the bumper sticker of close guantanamo was missing some of the broader underlying close guantanamo was missing some of the broader underlying issues, which is the questions about when does this conflict end. and until we answer that question, this is this there s two three categories of detainees at guantanamo. there s the 86 who have been either cleared for transfer or conditional transfer who essentially languish there due to a combination of congressional restrictions and an administration who s kind of given up on transferring some of these detainees out. and also home country refusal to take them. absolutely, absolutely. and then there s this other category of 46 detainees who this administration, just like the past administration, has
now the efforts by the u.s. military against al qaeda are in their 12th year, we must also ask ourselves how will this conflict end? that s a very good question, and since that s the pentagon s top lawyer asking it, we ll ask our brain trust, is the war on terror winding down? first, though, the fiscal cliff looms ever nearer, the house speaker, among many others, sounding very pessimistic today. are we headed over the edge? and after the election in a bruising defeat, what s next for the republican party? we ll talk to one top outgoing gop senator. good sunday afternoon to you, you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. there are no signs right now of a break in the deadlocked talks to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, the devastating combinations of tax increase and spending cuts that kick in
afghanistan, but all over the globe. we ve used the idea that we are in this global war as the justification for us doing all kinds of things. exerting all kinds of power that would otherwise be not just indefensible for a country with a constitution like ours, not just indefensible, but almost unimagining. in this global war of ours they said from the beginning would not end because there was going to be a winner declared. there couldn t be. it s not that kind of war. if that s the case and being in war footing is what justifies this behavior we wouldn t otherwise be participating in, one does this war end? when do we get to say the global war we declared more than 11 years ago is now over? today for the first time, a u.s. government official started talking about how this ends. now that efforts by the u.s. military against al qaeda are in their 12th year, we must also ask ourselves, how will this conflict end? this is the top lawyer at the
but all over the globe. we have used the idea we re in the global war as the justification of us doing all kinds of things and all kinds of power that would otherwise be not just indefensible for a country with a constitution like ours, but almost unimaginable. in this global war of ours, they said would not end because there was going to be a winner decl e declared. it s not that kind of war. if that s the case, and being in a war footing is what justifies this behavior we wouldn t otherwise be participating in, when does this war end? when do we say that the global war we e declared more than 11 years ago is now over? today for the first time, a u.s. government official started talking about how this ends. now that efforts by the u.s. military against al qaeda are in their 12th year, we must also ask ourselves, how will this conflict end? this is it the top lawyer at the pentagon. the general counsel of the