conflict czar, the point of disclosure is that you put these disclosures out there. you put them out there and then the ethics experts, the american people, the fda administrator, they decide whether there is a conflict of interest. so what we see here really is a big corporation, substituting their profit motivation for government ethics. you know what you plan to do in these hearings. and in this particular hearing. you ve got the evidence and you go through it. how surprised were you that at the way these executives respond and the way he responded today? do you expect him to be ready with something better than he had? well i mean i think you have to hold power to account. i think that s my job, is to hold power to account. it s to say on behalf of the american people that this doesn t cut it. and that s really what it s about. they re not going to cooperate unless you make them. and so the question today was, you broke the rules you didn t disclose these conflicts. now will you