martha: what that lead to the votes we used to see? i do. i am hopeful. when justice passed away i called the white house and said to the president obama white house coun sell have him nominate someone who is a centrist and confirmable. jurist. he nominated the d.c. judge of the circuit garland who i think should have been that confirmable centrist. it s unfortunate and tragic he never got a hearing and a vote. a lot of bad feelings where that is concerned. thank you very much. thank you. martha: you bet. martha: coming up next, the other hearing that got really heated today. not only inside the chambers but at one point spilled out to the hallway.