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President trumps wall initiative. Want to get your thoughts on that initiative. Guest weve always been pretty straightforward, even back to president bush that the wall by itself is not going to work. They come over and around it, under it, through it. So the idea that we can carry with just that is just a mistake. Host do you think guest its just how do we get there. Host do you think the cure involves that and other things who are you opposed to a wall at all traffic im not opposed to it wall at all. There are places where it will work and has worked in the big cities, out in the open expanses. I have a section of the wall in my office of las cruces where people are near the side cutting it down after 5 oclock. We are putting it up and they were cutting it down. In places and replace it with papiermache and so you just have to understand the wide open expanses theyre going to require technology to stop groups moving here and just someone to meet them and say this is not the way you c

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