. once we ve been hacked we become accessories whether we like it or not. now as we ve learned there are the black hats who do a shady business and the white hats who might use their skills by working for an i.t. company or for the government like for germany s foreign intelligence service for example or master hackers are urgently needed a license to hack that s how the agency is trying to recruit a new generation of computer wizards but seeing that young hackers usually don t have the most approving attitude towards the concept of nation states and governments who would have a resume here well we found one hacker that was willing to talk. spending hours days weeks trying to get into a system and getting nowhere can be very frustrating but when you finally succeed it s an amazing kick. interviewing lucas is an amazing kick for me to look at
of physical poison never seen before in modern u.s. elections and the mueller indictment says this is by russian s designs and some of the most divisive means were designed and delivered through the fake social media accounts by a russian troll farm. and today the russian ambassador to the u.s. is calling the indictment of 13 individuals and u three russian entities is a hu hunting routine that is designed to harm russian relations. i have seen so many allegations, and indictments in the recent years towards the russians. our american colleagues are launching a kind of the hunting spree throughout the world of russian computer wizards. matthew chance is going to join us from moscow. ser gay k sergey kislyak is
indication of to me that i know they re reaching out and getting more help which is good. quantico has the best facilities than anyone to look at that data and see what had happened to it. so it just indicates to me again that they are in a little over their head a little bit but realizing it and reaching out for a little bit of help. mary you ve been involved in this kind of thing before. one point you made several days ago which i think bears repeating, it s not just that something that an item was deleted. but perhaps if there was an attempt to overwrite something that was deleted that meeting telling. right. it s not just what you did and cleaned up your files or deleted it, but if you took active steps to make it very difficult to retrieve it it would show that you were intending to cover your tracks. it would show some kind of an intent to obfuscate or hide. in quantico, virginia that s the right place for that. they also have analyst and they don t just have the computer wiz
reaching out and getting more help. and quantico has the best facilities of anyone to look at that data. so it just indicates to me that they are in over their head a little bit. mary, you ve been involved in this kind of thing before. one point you made several days ago is it s not just something that an eye an item was completed but if there was an attempt to overwrite it. right, if you took active steps to make it difficult to retrieve it, it would show that you were intending to cover your tracks, it would show an intent to hide. and at quantico in virginia, that s the right place for that, because they have analysts and they don t just have the computer wizards. they have analysts that can analyze this. obviously an investigation like this, it s important to recognize and to point out, and certainly in our coverage to
computer wizards. they have analysts that can analyze this. obviously an investigation like this, it s important to recognize and to point out, and certainly in our coverage to point out what we don t know and what leads have not led anywhere over the last 24 hours. a lot more to talk about. we ll pick up the conversation when we come back. let us know what you think on twitter. tweet us your questions for the panel. we ll try to ask them later on in the hour. next, what may be in store for ships as they search for wreckage in some of the roughest waters on earth. there was good weather today and previous days we ve seen poor visibility. this is some of the conditions of what it can be like out there. later, a new theory that it could have been what the plane was carrying that brought it down, if in fact it did go down. we ll tell you what the cargo was and talk about that possibility ahead. yup. all 5 of you for $175.