good to see you, everybody. let me just ask, as we look at these two scandals, operation fast & furious, the security leak scandal, how many of you agree this will have a big impact on the presidential election? show of hands. how many believe it will not? ed rollins, i see no. why not? well, it should have. and it should be disclosed. obviously, the media and the campaigns and the congress need to bring this to the forefront. but irk the economy is such an overwhelming issue and every issue on the side of obama will be pushing it away from them. sean: you said it will have a big impack, andy mccarthy? it should have. but it won t if they go about it the wrong way. the important issue is the political accountability of the guy in the oval office, who is responsible for the reckless handling of national security information and not just the recent episode. this goes back to the beginning of the administration. but if they hand it over to a special prosecutor, particularly
the united states. nevertheless, there should be there must be an investigation can i tell you where the crime would be the crime would be one at a time. if the information was not authorized by the original classifying authority, then it becomes illegal. if it was authorized by obam athen it is legal. so first they have to investigate that s my point. whether or not, who gave the information and whether or not it was wait a minute. if the intent was not to harm the united states, but to bolster the re-election effort of the president it doesn t matter. sean: wait a minute. i am asking victoria. it can be a problem. nevertheless, we must investigate to do so who did the leaks. sean: when you think of the media hist earia of valerie plame, not a covert operative and they knew the leaker from day 1 and patrick fitzgerald
welrosario aryanos and retrieved two ak-47s and were taken by jamie avila, who was arrested the next day. when did you first hear about the weapons being purchased through the operation fast & furious. sean. mostly on tv, the media, newspapers. i never really got a call until it was brought out in the newspaper. i just was flabbergasted. i didn t believe it at first. sean: ballistic tests could not identify the murder weapon, but lawmakers were outraged. brian terry s loss was preventible. it was regrettable and preventible. sean: what makes the death so shocking to his family is that he did not die on a foreign battlefield. he died not in iraq or afghanistan, but in a desert outside of rio rico, arizona, some 18 miles inside of the
real national security issue. scooter libby, investigators were disgraced because it was leaked unintentional by someone close tote president, not scooter libby. this goes to the heart of our national security so this could be this could dwarf watergate, right? if the media does its job, absolutely. to me, there is no comparison at all. sean: we know what happened at the end of watergate. explain. watergate was internal. it was an attempt to seal campaign documents and the related activities never went to national security issues. it was an abuse of the political process. here, we are talking about the most sensitive, classified secrets that we have, leaked openly by the administration. dianne feinstein said, it s an avalanche of leaks. i don t know if any time in our history, where so much has been leaked, so much devastating information has been leaked at one time and it comes from
them over to the press. greta: it came through a freedom of information, that mean its got pulled out of them i. that s true. greta: it shows they were compliceit. these were not the rogue employees who had done this. it shows that the gsaea s up to their eyeballs in this, they have videos and cameras there, this is professionally done. this was not a secret thing. i mean, it was a very big, regional division of the gsa. they they memorialized it in various way, including the videos that were at gsa headquarters. here again, these tapes that we are seeing now look so embarrassing, those were not secret cell phone recordings, those were recordings that gsa itself made. greta: and hid until the freedom of information made them put it out. okay. i was going through the records. i noted, there were 8 trips to vegas to plan this in march of 089, five employees went to scout it.