very dynamic situation. let s check in now with our bill. i ll tell people, we re going to keep a live picture up here and people let us know if anything happens. and we re going to be keeping track of the situation as we re talking about this. but we re here with lieutenant colonel mitch utterbach. also has consulted with our local law enforcement in some of their exercises. you have a terrorism background. you have that special forces, but a lot of similarities here, i would think. we re talking about a gunman in a building here with a large perimeter. complex situation. very complex, bill. and as we saw in the last five hours. el paso county sheriffs and the colorado springs police have been done a great job of isolating the perimeter. clearing buildings on the way in. and really isolating the very target itself. and i m going to use military terminology. the target building. they used it to get officers inside. and i know they re really handling this like the complex
whfight back fastts tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum smoothies! only from tums we want to bring you a statement john hickenlooper. it reads we hold the people in our thoughts and prayers. the bravery and courage of local law enforcement officers have prevented a dire situation from being far worse, and we are all grateful. we are in contact with mayor suthers. resources are at the ready when needed. and we also know the mayor plans to hold a news conference himself once the situation has stabilized. it is far from stable right now. let s bring in msnbc law enforcement analyst and retired
so it could be a negotiation. it could end with one bullet from the s.w.a.t. team. but we don t know the number of citizens in there. all the agents and detectives. who s in there and who s out. and they re counting heads. and they re trying ining to ge out quickly. s.w.a.t. is in there with them. and the bad news is some innocent people in there, as well. yeah. definitely a scarier situation than we thought it was a while back when we thought he was in there alone with s.w.a.t. team members and perhaps they might be talking. it s definitely complicated. and people could be in the building but not under his control. but maybe they re in, you know, a line of fire in the hallway that he might have access to shoot them. so s.w.a.t. is not able to move
scenario. god forbid, whatever that might be happened that they would be ready in this neighborhood section of colorado springs. again, this situation down here where i am is changing. and we ve seen a couple different vehicles go up and down the street. colorado springs police, el paso county sheriff, even the state patrol has come up and down here a couple of different times with different vehicles coming and going. we ll keep you updated as more of that continues to happen here on koaa. until then, back to you. okay. matt pritchard live reporting just down the street. down the block there from the planned parenthood facility that has basically been under siege since 11:38 this morning. five hours we ve been tracking this breaking news scenario. and right now, it s a fluid situation. we want to get a little more perspective now on exactly what law enforcement in particular are having to deal with over these many hours in terms of tactics they use. trying to establish conversation
atf special agent jim cavanaugh. we ve learned a lot. we learned it s contained inside planned parenthood, but it is a complicated situation for all involved. you re exactly right. and you ve been covering it deeply all day. but the unseen commander is in control now. s.w.a.t. is there. they made entry into that building as they told us. and they ve exchanged gunfire with the lone gunman the only report we have. and they re going to be in control. he s going to lose control. it s going to slowly go from him to them. and that s what s been happening all day. now, we don t know exactly how many civilians are in the building. but they may not necessarily be in his grasp. and it may just be that the s.w.a.t. team can t evacuate them appropriately. so at the on scene command desk, what s going on there is detectives and agents are working with the planned parenthood leaders to know the