a little bit more. when you say these guys, what does this situation tell you based on the information we have about who this person might be? well, you know, attacks on clinics, we go back for the last 35 years. i ve worked a number of bombings and attacks on clinics. like eric rudolph, the improvised mine at the clinic in birmingham and killed a police officer. and severely injured the clinic personnel. you know, i ve had dynamite bombs at clinics in wichita, kansas. arson attacks. so there s been a lot of attacks on clinics that provide abortion services for women. and so that s not a new attack. now this attack is a little different with the firearm, but we ve had, you know, doctors that provide abortion services murdered. the doctor up in new york state. we had doctors in pensacola, florida, murdered. so this is a little different take on the attack of a clinic.
planning involved. and they know he brought things with him. that they have to investigate once it s over. there was word of propane tanks. again, we don t know what s what at this point. it does sound like planning here. that would seem to be the case that he did, at least, go to this planned parenthood clinic on purpose with some sort of plan in mind. so take us from here as far as we go, this situation will be resolved. how so far we don t know, but the lieutenant did say it will take hours to process this scene given he did bring things with him. they don t know what they are. she means, a, they have to neutralize the gunman one way or another, put handcuffs on him. render him unable to fire in whatever way they may do that. once they get him out of there, then they have to look at what he left behind.
well and be charged. and we should be hearing from the commanders, the chief, the mayor, governor, et cetera. joining me now is pete williams. pete, what have you heard? i ve been told by law enforcement officials that t the just as our header at the bottom says, the gunman has been captured alive. he basically walked out of the facility indicating that he wanted to turn himself in. they watched him walk out and immediately took him into custody. now, the process several pieces of work have to be done. he ll be taken to a facility and questioned by authorities. they will do a thorough search of that building now to account for anyone who might be missing, anyone who might be injured, anyone who might have been killed in that building. we have no idea what the situation is inside there. and they will also look at what were apparently some things that he took into the building with him. they don t know whether they were explosive devices, they don t know what. but it has ended wi
some more form, now, as he is still in there with police and, unfortunately with civilians, as well. we don t know how many. we don t know the size of that planned parenthood building. we don t know the layout. it s very hard to understand the situation as it stands. it s safe to say it s precarious. well, the good news is that they ve been getting people out of that building at a fairly consistent rate in small groups. so they re basically trying to get everybody out of the building except the gunman or, at least, get people in his area cleared out of the way for any further operations that they may want to carry out. and to make sure that there s nobody in the gunman s line of fire. so it is an active shooter in the sense that there s still a man with a gun inside that building, but it s unclear whether he s actually at this moment holding hostages or if he s just barricaded himself in there and they re trying to end this. it sounds, from the news conference, just moments ago tha
you ve got a guy very determined. you know, maybe suicidal. maybe he did bring propane tanks with him. but the most important information, i think that the pio gave us was that she didn t confirm that he was contained in a room in the building or at a specific location in the building. all she said was he s in there, he s exchanged gunfire with s.w.a.t. and citizens rep main. remain. so we don t know if he s moving a little bit. if he s in one contained office and they don t know if any citizens may be with them. they have not communicated with them. is what she said that she knew about. but, remember, s.w.a.t. officers if they even exchange gunfire with him can yell at him and he can yell back and that can change in a few minutes. and people that are bent on these kind of things can sometimes talk. give you their reasons for doing it or, you know, a lot of times very hyped up about the situation.