to say we are going to raise a child as nonbinary, meaning we are not going to raise a child as male or female, which is something that the couple in canada is doing. tucker: there are legitimate i think medical situations and you just describe some of them. there s an open question and i would never deny that and you want to respond compassionately but that s not what this case is about. this case is about the idea that you get to choose what your sex s, which is a denial of biology and also i think is a psychotherapist he would agree, a cost to a child. if you say to a little kid i don t know if you re male or female, you decide, i don t think you are going to get a good outcome a lot of the time at all. that s what people have never done that in human history. nell: the person who is deciding to do this with their child up in canada, i spoke to them on the phone, the point that they are making is that this child is a spiritual being having a human experience, not a human being h
concerns about this bill because of the unique way in which you administer medicaid dollars in wisconsin. there s an argument this bill as it s currently configured would make that hard to continue. how do you answer that and what proposals are you making to accommodate some of those concerns? i m concerned because we have that disparity between the expansion states and nonexpansion states but harold like you said wisconsin is a great model. the only state that closed the coverage gap caused by obamacare can good governance and what we re trying to do, devolve the management of medicaid back down to the states, the 50 models where we can administrate more efficiently and effectively, more compassionately honestly. that s a real problem, one of the things i m fighting for, maybe the $200 billion of additional deficit reduction, maybe those are some of the things we can use to make sure we don t lock in that disparity between expansion states and nonexpansion states. senator ron john
they are, and guess what? if you re interested in immigration reform or deal compassionately with those who are here illegally, but no crimes, get rid of the felons, deport them and we ll have something striking the fear in democrats, donald trump could be the one who bring about immigration reform. eric: some say that just donald trump what he s promised has the illegal borders crossings down 72%. i guess. jeff sessions, i don t think he takes our country backward and to be the secretary excuse me the attorney general, i m done on that one. eric: he delivered a number. he delivered a number. 72%. we re not talking this is a massive border crossing slowdown. he s absolutely doing something right.
that s a huge taxpayer burden. i want to make sure we re doing it appropriately and compassionately considering the fact that they entered illegally but may not have committed crimes and we won t break up families. i would add this is a very different issue from the sanctuary city policy that we talked about earlier in the segment. we need to see accurate reports. police chiefs across this country are supportive of sanctuary city policy. shannon: i would say there are a number of them who stepped out and say they don t. okay. good to see you guys and some agreement and smiles there. bill: it started well, didn t it? shannon: there were some kumbaya moments in person. bill: jen brewer is live to talk about that and the white house new immigration efforts. that s coming up next hour. also there is this. let s get to it. a tense meeting between rex tillerson and his russian counterpart happening at the moment as moscow accuses the u.s. of conducting an illegal
so the magic number is 216. i suspect the folks at leadership are counting those heads. i don t know why people would want to allow people to go without health care, allow penal who have health care now to lose that health care. it is very expensive. we have to do something. if we don t change what s happening with medicaid, it is not going to be around for people who come after us. something has to be done. we have to do this compassionately. it is very difficult to pull the rug out from people who have now become dependent on having health care. but the cbo report that you just mentioned, the last one anyhow, said 24 million americans would be without health care that currently don t have health care with the new proposal. the new proposal wasn t going to help those people with high premiums and high desubjeductib and co-pays. the cbo says in 20 years people paying $20,000 a year, premiums would only be paying $18,000. that s not the relief we