of jamal turner and his son. have you addressed the problem? are you playing an audiotape of them weeping at night missing their children? they re permanently separated from their children. how dare you decide are they the ones that caused your problem? i don t have a problem. you ve got a big problem with this policy. this is a big problem. you ve got two out of three people in the country against you on this policy. two out of three. just cut it out and try to unpack this intelligently. i have already told you on the compassion side how we all feel. then i tried to bring up the facts but that s just words because the president created the situation, kellyanne, so he doesn t get compassion points. you don t get compassion points when you change the policy to separate families. he deserves compassion points. when you have senator kamall ha harris on in a little while, i want you to ask her she prosecuted, what, a million felons at different times?
they re permanently separated from their children. how dare you decide are they the ones that caused your problem? i don t have a problem. you ve got a big problem with this policy. this is a big problem. you ve got two out of three people in the country against you on this policy. two out of three. just cut it out and try to unpack this intelligently. i have already told you on the compassion side how we all feel. then i tried to bring up the facts but that s just words because the president created the situation, kellyanne, so he doesn t get compassion points. you don t get compassion points when you change the policy to separate families. when you have senator kamala harris on in a little while, i want you to ask her she prosecuted, what, a million felons at different times? how many were prosecuted that she knows were prosecuted? how many that went to jail were separated from their children? it s a different thing. it s not a good analogy.
defiant to the u.s. government but they also we knew eventually they would cash us in, sort of like compassion points. and that was the sliver of light for us. the reason we wrote the book and what the book was about, is about freedom, about the horror of losing it and the miracle of getting it back. it s also about all of the people that we had to leave behind, all of the people in iran that didn t make it out like my friend za rar and all of the people in u.s. in solitary confinement for petty offenses. they are being psych logally tortured. there are violent people we put in solitary, but there are better ways. our interrogators told us a couple of months into our incarceration, they knew we weren t spies and our situation had become political and it would take negotiations between their government and other government to get us out. and i think we ultimately the iranian government is ultimately responsible for our ordeal.