way down in the single digits or in the teens. most people in america look at washington with amusement but not with a awful lot of respect or interest. so i think it s doublely important that when these kind of accusations are made that they should be investigated. steve: indeed. meanwhile, there is and we didn t exactly see this coming. you know, john poo destax it was hillary clinton s campaign manager. his brother, tony runs, i should say ran until yesterday, the podesta group. the podesta group and mercury were listed, it is presumed to be company a and company b, which were in the unsealed indictments yesterday, talking about some of the work that manafort did with the ukraine so mr. podesta said, you know what? i should step down and he did. brian: he cited the pressure he is getting from places like fox news for the reason. ainsley: yeah. brian: wait a second, you are working with paul
aluminum, siberian-born russian with very close ties to vladimir putin. talk us through this information. when you think about all that s in this indictment, this information simply couldn t be gleaned from getting financials from these guys. who by your estimation who have had to cooperate? you re right, they ve done an search of their financial records, e-mails dating back years in some cases. and then there s two companies that paul manafort hired, two washington lobbyists, company a and company b in the indictment, something typically done. and i would suspect the fact that those companies are listed in the indictment and shown to, you know, it s shown it seems from the indictment to have known they were working for the ukrainian government. they haven t been charged today. that lead mess to believe that officials from those companies are likely cooperating with the government s investigation. i m going to make a swamp