there were subsequent statements that changed the story entirely and now even today we are still learning more about this meeting. if he would have had a communications professional running this show, i bet it would have been a different outcome. jim, with one quick note on this. the other factor, there are a lot of different communications traps in the white house. they represent different people. jared kushner has his own little world. we re going to get to a point very soon where everybody is going to be trying to protect themselves. they are not going to be driving toward the same message, and that is going to create even more chaos. and david axelrod, as a former white house insider, when you hear stories like the one we have at cnn, because of these multiple statements and multiple explanations the white house has put out, they now potentially exposed white house aides in this process when it comes to the special counsel investigation. what does that do to people on the insid