committing genocides. torturing people. we are now traveling in kyiv suburbs and talking to people who experienced that. we understand this is the real fascism. the real stalinism, neo fascism. now, how it was changing, well, they re increasingly presenting this war as kind of a defense war. as a kind of a war in which they are defending something. we don t know really what. from this assault of the foreign powers. by this, they re really trying to make this upside down, as you say. yeah. i may not, you spoke of some of the horrors that people have been seeing and experiencing and people are coping with it in different ways. some have channeled it through art. i was struck by a paining by your 13-year-old daughter. it was as beautiful as it is