call is not been made on criminal referrals. jurors are said to be considering three options for donald trump. nbc s allie raffa is on capitol hill for us with the details. ali. katie, good morning. all eyes this morning are on the january six committee as a twerk comes down to the buyer we know members are meeting this weekend, trying to finalize that lengthy report of their findings and recommendations before this final public meeting on monday, where that report will be presented and more was widely released on wednesday. part of that report, could include the referrals to the justice department for former president trump. as far as his role in the capitol attack. members, we know are still debating whether to recommend charges for insurrection, obstruction of an official proceeding of congress, and conspiracy to defraud the federal government. while all three charges are on the table, three sources very close to the deliberations being considered by this committee says that a fin
decision has not been made. members have repeatedly cited the ruling by a district judge in the case against john eastman, trump s lawyer, for why they think both of them committed federal crimes in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. trump is not the only one that members may take action against in this public meeting on monday, chairman bennie thomas has said that there could be five or six different types of referrals for other members, other targets, and they could be referrals to the house ethics committee, other possibly the bar association, things for campaign finance violations and the sort. these are all critical decisions that committee members are working on this weekend, before the final meeting on monday. of course, we know that any referrals by this committee do not carry any real legal weight. they are largely symbolic, but
making to the rest of the committee in the past week. there s been a very flawed process. they are still talking about it, and they re also talking about things like insurrection as you say. i think this weekend it will come to their determinations and ultimately vote on matter on monday. charles, you are a former prosecutor like me. the subcommittee that you go talks about as well as within his reporting, stacked with former prosecutors as well. there s been some discussion, charles, about this crime of insurrection, whether or not it is really easy to prove, whether or not. do you think they should even be a factor at all? by the committee in terms of the burden of proof, in terms of the doj trying to obtain a conviction for any of the referrals? i do think it s important to understand that. the committee transferring criminal referral to doj doesn t necessarily mean that the doj has to take up the mantle. it is also important to remember that the doj, as well as the committee it
i appreciate both of you. happy holidays. up next, we re gonna dig into the potential political ramifications if the 16 committee issues once it referrals. could it backfire on the democrats and give republicans even more incentive for revenge as they get set to take over control of the house? power political panel joins me next. r political panel joins me next tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid. can it one up whatever they re doing? for sure.
track on who else, other than trump, we all know he is the focus here, but who else might actually have their head on the chopping block in terms of a possible referral by this committee and whether the committee is going to agree on that? look, i think both criminal and referral one of the things that they are going to take into consideration is the subcommittees recommendations. the subcommittee has recommended a criminal referral against trump. they ve also recommended criminal referrals against people like john eastman and other people like mark meadows who were in trump s inner circle at the trump white house. they re also looking at several referrals. they are looking at referrals for the ethics of committee against congress. despondence like ali said. in her segment i think you re looking a really wide range of options and it reflects this committee s modus operandi over the past 12 months. they really have been looking at a range of options. it s never just, we make one r