actual committee s investigation. i do wonder whether they are on the committee looking into him or whether the justice department is looking into obstruction, witness tampering, his efforts to keep people from cooperating with the committee itself, which would be obstruction as well. let s assume that the justice department finds evidence of obstruction or witness tampering as you say and not dereliction of duty. do you think the justice department would actually act on that? charging a former president i don t even think john tyler who after his presidency joined the confederacy, i don t think he was charged with a crime. would the justice department charge trump with a crime do you think? i don t think that this is a place that the current justice department would want to go. so it would have to be a very strong case. and so from that perspective, if the committee is looking into this, then they would really need to establish compelling
that day. so you re supportive of that resolution? so not saying if you are supportive of the resolution but defending the language in there and contending that perhaps that this was resolution was referring to six members of the republican national committee who were not in washington who were in florida but who were subpoenaed by the committee. now it s unclear exactly what he is referring to. i ve asked his office to clarify. they said the six members came from the republican national committee chairwoman herself rona mcdaniel and i asked the rnc to clarify who exactly the leader was referring to and who the six members are who were targeted or subpoenaed by the committee in some way. i have not heard back. the committee itself, january 6th committee, is not saying they are certain about what the republican leader is referring to, but nevertheless, john, you re seeing this divide play out. senate republicans are pushing back but that s not the tack the republican leadership is t
explosive messages between ginni thomas and mark meld does and what the committee might do with them. reporter: chris, these texts are as reported by the post a combination of motivational and conspiratorial. the post reports thomas was sending texts to meadows with various different conspiracies related to the election and urged him to stay in the fight, to try to stop what they called a heist of the 2020 election. we re out to ginni thomas, mark meadows attorney trying to get more comment from them. haven t had much luck. as for the committee itself, i don t think there s much of a nexus between these texts and the committee s investigation. ginni thomas is not someone they ve been focused on based on our reportering, and i can tell you in terms of the volume of material they got from mark meadows last year, thousands of text messages, he was getting tons of incoming like this from folks urging him to stay involved in this effort. mark meadows cell phone number was one of the mos
the capitol and stop the certification. we know that some republican members of congress at minimum sympathized with trump s attempts to overthrow the election and to mount a coup, or that they actively participated in some part of it. and we know that right-wing media members who currently pretend to have been down with the coup from moment one pleaded on insurrection day for donald trump s chief of staff to get him to stop it. and now republicans in congress are trying to throw all the sand that they can into the gears of the investigation, including the house minority leader attempting to install a possible leader of the failed coup, jim jordan on to the investigative committee itself, with jordan who by the way is the ranking member of the house judiciary committee. now hinting that he will refuse to cooperate with investigation by his own branch of government about an attack on his own branch of government.
if it does, how significant is this beyond what trump wants here? beyond this committee? this would set quite a precedent for future administrations. yeah. and the ripple effect would be into both democratic and republican administrations. but for the committee itself, they are acting on the assumption essentially that congress will switch hands in 2022. and that means by then house speaker can kevin mccarthy would dissolve the committee or defame it in a significant way. they re moving on a timetable here to release some kind of final report. and if the appeals if the supreme court doesn t take up the appeal, that gives them way more time to produce our report. if it doesn t, it means that the committee has to move faster. one thing we know about this committee, they re incredibly thorough and they have been