actual committee's investigation. i do wonder whether they are on the committee looking into him or whether the justice department is looking into obstruction, witness tampering, his efforts to keep people from cooperating with the committee itself, which would be obstruction as well. >> let's assume that the justice department finds evidence of obstruction or witness tampering as you say and not dereliction of duty. do you think the justice department would actually act on that? charging a former president -- i don't even think john tyler who after his presidency joined the confederacy, i don't think he was charged with a crime. would the justice department charge trump with a crime do you think? >> i don't think that this is a place that the current justice department would want to go. so it would have to be a very strong case. and so from that perspective, if the committee is looking into this, then they would really need to establish compelling
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