fear. i don t want to get into conversations about vice president pence pardoning. that captures why the committee wants to speak to mccarthy because he was legitimately worried that trump would leave getting a pardon for criminal acts and almost insinuates that that the former president committed criminal act there is. so i think the timing of the tape is bad timing for a number of reasons and reinforces why the committee wants to talk to people like mccarthy, jim jordan and those showing act faces than they were in the days after the january 6, 2021, insurrection. it does more than insinuate. looking at the trump pardons. putting the history of presidential pardons aside.