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shooting as one in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter. a davis and juliette kayyem are back with us now. and the numbers don t lie, juliet right there. there are more mass shootings. they are becoming more frequent . in the last few moments we heard from state senator heidi campbell, who talked about a six gun culture in this country. um, how much do you think these rising numbers are associated with? the culture that is so attached and attracted to guns in our society. very much so in and i mean you just because we can compare ourselves to other countries. other countries have mental health disorders. other countries have have schools and they don t have the kind of mass shootings we do are often say in response to the to the to the slogan. we just have to give good people guns, right and then we ll solve this problem. if we if guns were going to make us
minute response. but but 15 minutes is certainly within the protocol of good solid police work and you wait until you get one or two people with you, and then you literally do what the marines described as charge the position now the unique thing about that is if a shooter has a rifle and you ve got two officers who were the first ones on the scene with just side arms . they are heavily outgunned in a situation like that, so the courage that it takes to walk into that withering military fire is remarkable. and we don t know all the details here. but, um, but i suspect this story will be compelling. yes you said. we don t know all the details, but at this moment, it appears that the brave work of those officers may have saved more loss of life. commissioner davis juliette kayyem, please stand by as we get more details on this breaking news. if you re just joining us three children and three adults killed after a shooting at a private school in