Determine. I would do with give these estimates . Probably half an hour. Probably half an hour would be my guess, but its very difficult to determine in advance. Is there a motion to move into closed session under chapter section c3699. 13 . So moved. Second. All in favor . Aye. Opposed . Hearing none, we will move into closed session. With all due respect you didnt answer the other part of my question, are we going to leave and are you going to notify people in the hallway . Do we wait here and you retire to another room . So, if you would leave, that would be great . And will you notify people in the hallway when you were back in open session. Is there a motion to keep the discussions and deliberations relating to the matter that was discussed in confidential session, keep that confidential . That is perhaps not the most el eloquent motion i have ever made. [ laughter ] so moved. Second. Public comment . Hearing none, all in favor . Aye. Opposed . There are none. Mr. St. Croix, can y
Appreciation for the interested persons meeting announcement, and im glad that well be talking about that report at a future meeting. Some of the issues that were raised in the course of these conversations kind of come naturally into the consideration of that. Im thinking of something, like, our whistleblower experience and it will be i think it will be useful for all of us to see you think the contemporary word is benchmark. But have an opportunity to reflect on that, not in the context of any particular case, but in a general way. I agree. I agree. We need to look at all of our investigations and all of your work and see where we can improve and i think seeing what has been done in l. A. And a comparison is going to be a useful discussion. I hope that we will have significant public participation. Anything else . Public comment . Public comment on agenda item no. Ix. David pilpel. I will remind the Commission Self years ago we had attached to the executive directors report a sixmont
I think certainly the public relies on us to some extent for our investigatory work and we want to continue that and certainly not diminish that result of budget cuts, in my opinion. Any other comments . Is there Public Comment on this matter . David pilpel, a number of items starting with memo. I dont know why commissioner renne fell off the letterhead here. I apologize and i hope he is still with us and perhaps its just an oversight. Plus the date should be 2013. This is actually not a lot of detail. Its like no detail. And this is actually a required annual hearing on the budget pursuant to the charter. I appreciate commissioner hayons question and the directors answer. I think in whatever transmittal comes from the commission and the staff to the mayor and controller should include some of the that language about things that arent getting done, could be done, could be done better. I think that very much supports the budget request. And i think that in general terms, that the commis
Able to see what we get to see, what the Controllers Office sees, and what the commissioner itself sees. These investigations are factintensive. The commissioner spends a lot of time on them, and i would really like for you to be able to know and to prove that to you. We are bound by rules of nondisclosure. We are bound by the charter and state law and there is good reason for confidentialitis, i think as i set at the last meeting. We need to protect whistleblowers and need to protect people who talk to Commission Investigators and controllers investigators, in order to try to make this system work. So i dont think im alone in that. Next item on the agenda is discussion and possible action on the Ethics Commission budget. Mr. St. Croix, would you like to introduce this matter . So the numbers break down as before you in the memo. We have been asked in the past several budget years due to difficulties with city budget to make cuts so substantial that would prove damaging to the commissi
Mr. St. Croix, can you make the announcements . Finding of probable cause for Ethics Commission complaint 13111013, at its regular meeting of january 28th, 2013, in the matter of ethics complaint 131103,the Ethics Commission made a determination that there is probably cause to believe the following violations of the San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code occurred and that the respondents committed them. One violation of San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code section 1. 1 16 subsection a2 for reporting and receiving a loan to his candidate committee in excess of 120,000. Two, one violation of San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code section 1. 1 16, subsection c, for repaying aloan amount in excess of 120,000. 3 one violation of california Government Code Section 81 104, subdivision a has incorporated into local law by San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code section 1. 1 106 for not accurately reporting either the correct amount loan