evidence of criminality and maybe author a report to congress about his findings concerning any potential criminal conduct by the president. or as we ve all see it done before, albeit back in 1974, he could also include the president in a conspiracy indictment as an unindicted co-conspirator. take a quick listen, john, to rudy giuliani s interview if you already know the answers. he knows the answers to every question he wants to ask. he s going to ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president will say, no, i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him under oath? do you think we re fools? you want to trap him into perjury. we re not going to let you do that. john, you know this is an old southern argument, they call it kind of a trap house argument for perjury trapping the president. yeah, there s a big flaw there, which is he s in a way
good at all for manafort. i think that that is a big factor in this. but to the point of the potential for firing rosenstein or someone else in the investigation, what does if that happens before the midterms, what does that do but serve as the best get out the vote device for democrats leading up to the election? how is that a politically good move? i just don t see it. here s more rudy giuliani. sometimes you just want to play it because you can t believe what you re hearing on television sometimes. this is rudy giuliani basically as you pointed out earlier, kimberly, openly admitting what they re afraid of. he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he s going to ask him, did you tell comey to go easy on flynn? the president will say, no, i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him under oath? you think we re fools? you want to trap him into perjury. we re not going to let you do that. he doesn t need to ask a single question on obstruction. h
questioning. he can say yes or no. we can do it. if he doesn t want to do it. he knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask. he s going to ask him did you tell comey to go easy on flynn. the president will say no i didn t. hey, bob, you know it. why do you want to get him under oath. do you think we re fools. you want to trap him in perjury. we re not going to let you do that. i ve never been involved in an investigation on either side that s more illegitimate than this one, that s so more obviously illegitimate and i wonder where the sense of justice is on the part of mueller, on the part of the justice department. the real story here is not that this case isn t going to fizzle, it will blow up on them. the real question is what we talked about before, there s a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet and mueller is going to have a lot to answer for. the investigation here has to be
was told that many times, can you give the man a break either by his lawyers, relatives, by friends. reporter: so you see the president s lawyer there confirming in some way president trump suggested comey to go easy on flynn. what are you hearing about the demands that the trump legal team making if mueller wants a interview with the president? reporter: we know that the president s new legal team and that includes rudy giuliani has been much more antagonist with the mueller investigation and now rudy giuliani tells the new york times and other outlets to see proof that the president has committed some kind of crime before president trump decides to sit for an interview and also wants the mueller team to make it clear why they need testimony from the president and to show that they could not get it from anyone else involved this. these are pretty high demands. it s very unlikely that mueller s team would go along with them and could pull out a trump card saying we re moving
between the president s attorneys and the special counsel. he wants to make it so robert mueller has to file a subpoena to compel the president to testify. something he says he will fight in court. ryan? boris sanchez live in new jersey. thank you for that report. as boris said, president trump has repeatedly denied he asked comey to go easy on flynn. in fact, listen to what the president said last may. did you at any time urge former fbi director james comey in in way, shape or form to close or back down the investigation into michael flynn and also no. no. next question. let s talk about this. we bring in cnn legal and political commentator ken cuccinelli. the former virginia attorney general and editor for the weekly standard, bill kristol. ken, rudy giuliani says trump s ask is not out of the ordinary. when he was a prosecutor family