critical to prevents s s a terrt plot. the administration has disclosed that there were 54 plots that were disrupted over the life of these two programs in section 215 was critical to preventing no, sir. and of those plots, 13 of those had a homeland nexus. the others had essentially plots that would have com ia, other p around the world, of the 13 how many of those 13 were plots to harm americans? of the 13, that would have had a homeland nexus, 12 of those, 215, made a contribution. meantime, the obama administration released newly declassified documents today that shed additional light on the nsa s surveillance program, including new details on the extent and the capabilities of the technology. joining me live now, new york times reporter, charlie savage. thanks for the time. thank you.