january 6th committee s investigation. and she joins me now. betsy, can you give me a little background i guess on the clark situation? a little different than bannon for a few different reasons. a more colorable claim to privilege. and he did show up. he didn t just blow them off. what can you tell us about the committee s deliberations about arriving at this recommendation? the biggest problem for clark, which is a problem bannon actually didn t have, is that even though trump would have had firmer ground to assert executive privilege as it relates to clark, trump didn t actually do that. trump ghosted on jeffrey clark. the last communication that trump and his legal team ah. sent to jeffrey clark, according to clark himself, was on august 2nd of this year. and in that communication trump said he would not go to court to block clark from talking to congressional investigators. fast forward to mid october.