be given the year he has had without this cloud over his head. i want them to come. but you have been look for two years, you have come up with nothing other than their own nefarious actions and their own collusions. but they have come up with nothing. at this point you have got to come to something. if they try to drag it out for a year so the democrats have their talking points. you see the democratic senators. this is mccarthyism. you have a guy who has been screaming russia, russia, for 18 months screaming about mactar thinkism. the irony is ridiculous. jesse: you have two competing narratives. on the left, the media, that donald trump is a colluder and he was in cahoots with the russians to help win the presidency. and on the other hand you had people reporting that the department of justice and the
be given the year he has had without this cloud over his head. i want them to come. but you have been look for two years, you have come up with nothing other than their own nefarious actions and their own collusions. but they have come up with nothing. at this point you have got to come to something. if they try to drag it out for a year so the democrats have their talking points. you see the democratic senators. this is mccarthyism. you have a guy who has been screaming russia, russia, for 18 months screaming about mactar thinkism. the irony is ridiculous. jesse: you have two competing narratives. on the left, the media, that donald trump is a colluder and he was in cahoots with the russians to help win the presidency. and on the other hand you had people reporting that the
and the way this has all unfolded, there is at least some basis to be paranoid. look, paul manafort is finishing his jury is in the third day of deliberation. if there was going to be a colluder within the trump campaign, it was going to be the guy who for years worked with the pro-russian ukrainians, paul manafort. they ve gone all the way through. they threatened him with everything they had, and there are no charges related in any way to the election, nothing. and papadopoulos, who we just saw the sentencing documents, you know, that came out from the prosecutor again. he s a big nothing-burger. listen, i get you. that s never been my bar as you know, ken. it s never been my bar is if you can t catch trump, then this probe is a waste. that s never been my bar. i m saying, bakari, we re dealing with a guy in the man of
i think remember in flynn s case, you had his son involved, and they were holding threats over his son over his head. that s a pretty common tactic. we ll drop all this stuff on all the people you care about if you just take the bullet. and, you know, that kind of tactic is not appropriate prosecution, but it is used. and from a prosecutor s standpoint, i ve worked with prosecutors. i ve managed prosecutors. sometimes they think that looks appropriate. and the way this has all unfolded, there is at least some basis to be paranoid. look, paul manafort is fini finishing his jury is in the third day of deliberation. if there was going to be a colluder within the trump campaign, it was going to be the guy who for years worked with the pro-russian ukrainians, paul manafort. they ve gone all the way through. they threatened him with everything they had, and there are no charges related in any way to the election, nothing.
michael cohen. michael flynn. and mike flynn and rick gates. so pretty much everybody except paul manafort have flipped. they re aware people can change when pressed by the feds. when you have someone self-described colorful character a practitioner of the dark arts like roger stone who plays up that idea of himself it s never great if he ends up going before mueller s team. does have these long ties to donald trump. it doesn t seem like a good piece of the pattern if the person who arguably was around him in the context of politics the longest was the colluder. not a good fact. frank, what would you do as an investigator if you were able to sort of put roger stone in the category of people who you can prosecute beyond a reasonable doubt if you re able to do that? where does he fit into the collusion puzzle? i think we ve been because