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gettysburg, places like that, that brings more of a chill to your back? there s none for me. the first time i went to normandy, i was there with a man who had been he had been on the beach at omaha 51 years prior and hadn t been back since that day. and came back and just stood on the beach and looked out in the water as the rest of us sat back. it was i ll never forget it. i can t think of a place like it. it s phenomenal. the cemetery has a kind of cold beauty. and it s remarkable. and the cliffs are big, but they re not sort of before i went there, i thought of them as, you know, vast cliffs. and you think of how tall they looked when those young guys are coming off the beach. i think that the closest a lot of us are ever going to get to combat i think is the first 10 or 15 minutes of saving private ryan, which spielberg and hanks take on this, which i really recommend. it s a remarkable combat