this is considered a fringe position by our mainstream media. the new york times the other day termed the coin men men striewter. they are coining new terms for women that rely on their men men sees. this is where the democrats have gone and far left has gone. and the further left they push, the more they are leaving the middle behind. look at the republican, democrat independent breakdown. after poll after poll after poll independents these days largely mirror republican views on nearly every issue. they are not dead center. they agree with republicans on most issues and democrats are way out there to the left. jesse: good tip for everybody out there. i too look at the same thing. more people just identifying as an independent as opposed to either members of either party and i think that s a good thing, too. something not a good thing, the view. we watched the view so you don t have to watch it at home. and some things were said today on the view that i needed to get ben sha