i said some time between now and 2016. he said let me tell you, i could book this guy from now until 2017 and he will never talk to you. i figured, well, cohen isn t going to work so i called core yes lewandowski and had an interview with candidate trump the next week. he could be insulting. dana: this tweet from ben shapiro, he wrote this, cohen s testimony falls into three buckets for trump. one, illegality. embarrassing for trump, super hi layerity. not much in bucket one, a fair amount in bucket three, a p.r. thing. ben as he often is, is right on with the assessment. you look at the illegal issue, michael cohen saying all of these things that don t lien up. the president was working line up. the president was working on this hotel project to bring in hundreds of millions of dollars and be the biggest hotel