mcgan said because the president s attorneys didn t ask for a complete deprebriefing. sources say federal prosecutors would file bank and tax fraud charges against michael cohen. that could come by the end of this month. what could this mean in terms of cohen running to mueller to cooperate? we ll see. and while president trump rants on twitter against mueller, the russia investigation and critics, we re minutes from the first lady once again taken to the podium to speak out against cyber bullying. you ll hear her here live. let s start with the stunning move that the white house counsel has been cooperating with bob mueller s investigators. joe johns joins me now from the white house. and i think the white house the president and if you listen to them over the weekend, this is not stunning, of course we want full transparency and him to talk. the important nugget in the new york times story they broke is that don mcgahn felt he was being used as a trap and flipped
mcgahn was a strong witness for the president s case and the strategy is working. his thinking behind this is that if mueller s team gets all of these answers from all of the people around the president and 1.4 million documents, then he has no need to question the president, right? and he would have no legal basis on which to argue it up through the supreme court to question the president. do you agree with john dowd that this was the right strategy to just let mcgahn go and assert no attorney-client privilege? no, i don t agree with it. i ll come back to sort of the pros and cons of that, but i think it s very dangerous not to assert the privilege and it s important for us all to remember, there are two kinds of privilege at stake here. there s the so-called executive privilege, which got litigated in water gatd and then there s the more traditional attorney-client privilege with a twist, which is mcgahn is the white house counsel not trump s person lawyer. he s really a government
say, no legitimate investigation here therefore the president should not talk to mueller. all right, thank you both. nice to have you. ahead for us, back in the spotlights, melania trump will speak out against cyber bullying as her own husband tears into critics on twitter, again and again. will she address that elfaephan in the room? jurors in the trial of paul n manafort kick off day three. we ll take you live to the courthouse and shared no care for the little ones, words from the pope, breaking his silence on the sex abuse scandal in pennsylvania, rocking the catholic church. much more on that ahead. fidelity is redefining value for investors. introducing zero account fees for brokerage accounts.
leaking this story, saying they are trying to trap the president with some sort of perjury charge. that doesn t make sense because obviously if the special counsel was trying to trap the president in some sort of perjury charge, they won t put out there don mcgahn had met with him for 30 hours. they would interview the president and compare what he said to what don mcgahn said. if anything this news helps them because it allows them to prepare the president if he is going to sit down with mueller, what toe say to say and not to say. perry, is the truth the truth or the truth not the truth this monday morning? i hope the truth is the truth but i think the reality is, giuliani is trying to build a case for trump to not testify. and we ve been talking since december it s clear trump does not want to testify. all of this is a pred katd side to the president refusing some sort of testimony because this is what giuliani trying to
mueller and his team about really intense moments. and potentially obstruction, moments of a potential obstruction. one the comment and actions during the firing, what was the intent behind that. the obsession that the president had with putting a loyalist in term of the probe and his attempt desire to fire special counsel bob mueller at one point. the fact all this came forth and the white house strat by was freely testify, we re not asserting any privilege, tell your story, put it out there. does that reflect well on the white house? well, they can say look, we tried to be transparent. we told mcgahn to go talk to special counsel. but according to a lot of reports from various newspapers, they are regretting that strategy. they are concerned and they don t know as perry just said, don t snknow exactly what mcgah told the special counsel. i do think it s interesting that giuliani has gone out there and accused the special counsel of