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under this pressure, do they know how to approach it, not necessarily the maximum ri distance in court, which is their right. you mentioned the panel that we had last night. one of the key questions i put to them was on the news should cohen step up and ultimately testify and we could look at their answers. do you think he should step up and speak to congress before he goes to jail? i don t have any opinion on it. i think he should. i could care less, i would like him to go to jail as soon as possible and stay there. the more openness the better. a range of views of a panel of individuals, that have been in cohen s situation before. you mentioned the fifth amendment protections that cohen may or may not have. for our viewers that are not 100% familiar, he is going to
guiliani and jay sekulow about michael cohen on many occasions. and they at least to me have not expressed any concern about anything that cohen may tell congress, or may tell mueller for that matter. then, again, you can always have the public face and then the private one that i may not be completely aware of. shepard: understood. john, you are the best, thank you. so the best information we have comes from the players at hand, michael cohen says on february 7, i m testifying before the house oversight committee. oversight and government reform committee. and the chairman of that committee says he s going to be testifying, but doesn t give a specific date. at any rate, bob bianchi is here, very often on the set with us on the news deck. but today on the phone. bob, i just wonder what it would be like this confluence of situations, where we have, he
9 million more voters this time around for democrats than republicans. there s a reason for that. they have to put a check on donald trump. i think you re right. i think the political pressure now on house democrats. you can t sit here and look at this. tom winter, i know you re the man who knows how to actually read prosecutorial tea leaves here. you have a couple more comments. yes. as we ping our way through the filing. i want to bring up three points. one they reference a number of times, we knew these existed but perhaps not to the extent, the secret recordings made between cohen and reporters and other individuals that really appear to sink his ship here. basically they re saying these recordings were helpful in understanding cohen s intent and the behavior that he was up to. they make it clear and reference it numerous times through this document when they say cohen may basically his behavior and the way he acted in taking
and to make sure that the statements that cohen may have made, that in fact what he s saying today is truthful. these things go back and forth. it s clearly going to go beyond what he was charged with yesterday of lying to congress. it would appear anyway, stephanie. that s something we have to watch what else did they discuss and what other evidence and things did he bring to them. there was a significant legislation in the court paperwork yesterday. 70 hours. there s nothing i could even i don t have 70 hours worth of content on anything. all right, pete. this could be politically damaging for the president, but have you seen anything that suggests he broke the law? no, and it would seem the exposure here for others is whether they too lied to congress.