continuing to accept responsibility for the false statements contained within it. so that there seem to be making clear that cohen didn t just do this unilaterally, lying to congress. he did it in conjunction with others. and also, there are also other clues sprinkled throughout these documents about the president and how it might relate to him talking about how mueller s team is interested in the contact cohen had with the white house during the 2017/2018 time period. and so that would suggest they re looking into perhaps witness tampering. as you ll recall, we reported last friday that cohen believed for a time that the president would give him a pardon if he was charged, based on what people around the president had been telling him. and so what also sticks out to me in reading this is, we knew prior to this robert mueller was interested in the moscow project. and reading these documents, now we see a little bit more of why he was so interested in this. and he talks about the fa
total confidence in the dossier. he denied any abuse of the surveillance warrant process in the 2016 campaign. that s the highlights. if i get more on the cohen memo, i will certainly come back to you, charles. charles: thanks. i just got a copy, but it s pretty lengthy here as well. do we still have chris swecker with us? chris, apparently reports in the media may have been misleading to how well michael cohen was cooperating. there s a request for jail time. it s a long document, that he has not cooperated to the degree that the public was made to believe. are you surprised by that? no, i m not surprised. cohen didn t have a deal with the special counsel. manafort did. he blew the deal apart. he will get hammered. cohen by contrast didn t have a deal. i don t think mueller had a lot of interest in him.
information. and when the moscow project came up, the classic situation where something that cohen didn t know they knew as much about was put on him, then he lied in that first meeting. this is a fanarrative from muelr that s not contested at this hour by michael cohen who s now largely cooperated that basically says he came in to lie about that, and to push a narrative on other stuff. then he realized how much hot water he was in and began cooperating, according to mueller, truthfully in these later meetings. so the core question, who knew about that, who orchestrated it, who in the white house, government lawyers, donald trump himself? there are a lot of people that could be on the hook for obstruction in and around the white house, and yes, a question congress may address if they think there was obstruction from the top. ari, you have 16 minutes to prepare a show. get out of here. yes, sir.
allen weisselberg may know where they are. we re focussed on paul manafort and that plea yesterday. the numbers are piling up. yeah, in terms of people flipping and cooperating. yeah, absolutely. cohen is potentially cooperating. cohen didn t have a cooperation deal in his plea bargain, but he did al cute that the president actually helped him commit these campaign law violations. manafort, this news of the manafort cooperation agreement is likely going to be the one that scares president trump the most. thank you very much. thanks for having me. thank you both. this is dramatic new video i m going to show you next from jacksonville, north carolina, where roads have turned into rivers. another live report coming up after the break after the drenching rains from tropical storm florence continue to
don t know that there s any other way to read that but that he feels pretty confident he s going to get a pass. of course states are a different matter. does that to you, norm? you know, remember, when if, in fact, there is a plea deal, and there is a hearing and an aa allocution tomorrow, remember the cohen situation, chris, where cohen didn t do a cooperation deal but he made the shocking statement in federal court that he was acting at the direction of the president. so i m going to be listening very carefully, does manafort tip his hand? you know, he can do a lot of damage even if there s a pardon ahead. for example, will he say that he did anything at the behest of his ukrainian or even russian contacts to change the official position of the republican platform? remember, there s a controversy about that. yeah. whether the platform was changed to benefit russia s