but it really shows you how much the democrats hate trump. shannon, is that pretty much in line with the attack on cohen we can expect? i would say there s three things we ve been hearing from republicans as far as their strategy for attacking cohen. number one would be he lied to congress, attack his credibility. of course he is now someone who s testifying again before congress, so if he lied, he s aware you can t lie to congress, but they ll go down that path. they ll try and bring up his past business dealings, his lobbying work, and dig into any sort of try to bring up any sort of dirty laundry they might have on cohen. and the other is this idea of trying to paint him of someone on the periphery of the trump organization, someone who wasn t in the room or the inner circle. make him a coffee boy figure who might not really know that much. and then the strategy on the democrats, of course, is going
on the periphery of the trump organization, someone who wasn t in the room or the inner circle. make him a coffee boy figure who might not really know that much. and then the strategy on the democrats, of course, is going to be the opposite. it s going to be to try and paint cohen as someone who was this close figure to the president by his side every moment, someone who has changed his ways and reformed and seen the light of honest. so that s the back and forth we ll see. you know, i think the debate over cohen s role in trump world is going to be very interesting. i think his role, really, is sort of somewhere in between. he was not that central figure i think democrats want to make him to be, but he was also not this periphery person on the outside of trump s orbit the way democrats will try to paint him. a call back to the-to-a mob movie. if i appointed you chief counsel of one of these committees, and i would never do that to you,
the democrats hate trump. shannon, is that pretty much in line with the attack on cohen we can expect? i would say there s three things we ve been hearing from republicans as far as their strategy for attacking cohen. number one would be he lied to congress, attack his credibility. of course he is now someone who s testifying again before congress, so if he lied, he s aware you can t lie to congress, but they ll go down that path. they ll bring up his past business dealings, his lobbying work, and dig into the any sort of dirty launder they might have on cohen. and the other is this idea of trying to paint him of someone on the periphery of the trump organization, someone who wasn t in the room or the inner circle. make him a coffee boy figure who might not really know that much. and then the strategy on the democrats, of course, is going
made a turn turned the corner in his life and is here to tell the truth. and someone who was so close and instrumental to president trump, that he knows all of the secrets and firsthand accounts. that s another thing that republicans will try to do, is downplay cohen s role in trump s orbit and make him to be a coffee boy figure, if they can. richard burr has said nothing will be off-limits today. what does that mean? before i answer that, i want to say, that white house statement is some overreach. it s one thing to point out that michael cohen has lied. that s indisputable. but to say that it s laughable for anyone to take him seriously, you re impugning richard burr. you re also impugning the prosecutors in manhattan and in robert mueller s office, who has believed michael cohen and has used it in court documents to make allegations about what happened.