for photo id. always a pleasure. good to see you. you can catch his show at 6:00 p.m. eastern weeknights here on msnbc. joining me judith brown deanna. codirector of inadvancement project. what does the landscape look like legally in terms of the fallout legally, not legislatively, legally, with the voting rights act, the core part of it, the preclearance part being gutted, the states moving ahead. what recourse is there now in the courts to fight back? right, well, thanks for having me, chris. so right now, with the gutting of the voting rights act by the supreme court, what we re finding is groups like advancement project and others having to go in and aggressively litigate. so, for example, we have a case in north carolina against what s called the monster voter suppression bill that has everything in there, it s the kitchen sink. but you also see in texas, very quickly, i mean, we must remember, after the shelby county case, texas tweeted out