lack of sinister aspect. randi, it doesn t tell me anything. it still leaves all options open and possibilities open. in terms of defending the cockpit as kit just mentioned, if you have one or two either one of the pilots get up and leave the cockpit to go to the bathroom or lax and leave the door unlocked for some reason, one could be out of the cockpit and locked out by the partner. the only reason we know what s occurred in previous flights is from the voice cockpit recorder which we were able to listen to and hear the captain try to get back in or shouting at the copilot and the copilot chanting as in the case of egypt air crash. we just had a pilot a month ago or so hijack his own airplane. the copilot decided instead of going to rome, he was going to geneva, switzerland. he locked the pilot out, flew
the plane would probably break apart. it s probably at the bottom of the ocean and the cockpit voice recorder sends a flight that would have gone on so long. if the pilots were not speaking and there is no clicks or sounds of equipment and the cockpit voice recorder is not going to be a lot of help. the data recorder will be a gold mine of information and tell everything that the plane did. when we look at the big picture, this puzzle, it seems like a moving puzzle. we are lacking many, many pieces, but what is the most crucial piece that you think they need to find? if we can find a digital flight data recorder, that would be number one. the cockpit recorder would be number two. the third thing is if we can recover the cockpit itself from the ocean floor, we will know then if there was a fire in either electrical equipment or in the cockpit itself. i would like to know the position of the oxygen markets were when they stowed and were
tashed to the cockpit recorder. they want to locate that underwater and so you need to get a debris field first, go to the debris field and then start scanning the water within the vicinity that debris field because it does not emit that far radius around it like emergency locator transmitter. jon: take us through what the u.s. air force and other assets are doing here. we point out, this is 1,500 miles off the coast of perch here. that s a three hour flight just to get out there. then you ve got just this large section of ocean searched on the second day. that s many, many hours of flying in and of itself. what are they doing exactly to try to identify these pieces of wreckage if that s what they are? well, one of the things they re going to do is they re going to pool resources together so the australian t 3 s are
really orange even then. why do you say even then? because the voice cockpit recorder will have been written over if the plane stayed in the air that much longer, they re not going to be able to go back to listen to what happened in the cockpit. it will be silent. the last two hours they ll still have a lot of data. it will go up, down or sideways and won t tell you what s being said in the cockpit. but that data would be useful. it would be extremely useful. but it really raises the issue with what tom said. we need to have the data recorders and the voice recorders looked at again. longer batteries so that they can be recovered over a longer period of time, longer time on the voice recorder. should be a 24-hour period. why don t they have that? what s the problem? well, there s been a variety of oppositional positions. pilots don t like it. that s the main reason. that s not a good reason. well, it s a tough one. it s their work environment.
can fly. you can t turn it off like you can smaller old airplanes that were piston-driven where you could actually turn off the electrical. you can t do that in these modern jets. fran, what do you make of this? the mind obviously immediately turns to terrorism as a possibility. just based on if these devices are being shut off, with time apart and shut off according to both these gentlemen, it would be a human being doing that. that s right, anderson. and so i think we re beginning to get a sense of confidence, if you will, in the ever-changing fact pattern here that it was human intervention, that this was not a catastrophic event. but that doesn t necessarily lead me to believe it was an act of terrorism. i mean, the director of cia earlier this week said he hasn t taken that off the table. and i think you just need to know more. what you want more than anything is the cockpit recorder.